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Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:55 pm
by UglyTruth
https://twitter.com/acommoncreeper/status/832249136535728128 McDonough is demanding a "good asset" back for Knight? Is this idiot serious?

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:58 pm
by In2ition
UglyTruth wrote:
Cap wrote:Wow. Knight has cost us both the Lakers pick and now Cousins.
His impact on this franchise has been worse than many of the other idiots we've had here like Beasley, Warrick, Childress, Morris etc.
Blame it on the Mc, yeah yeah!

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:01 pm
by UglyTruth
The hottest trade candidate in the league right now is.....

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:lol:

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:50 pm
by Shabazz
I've actually always liked Favors, but he only works as a center in the current NBA. He's not a fit next to either Len or Chandler. I do like his fit next to Bender and Chriss.

Not a fan of his contract situation, though. He also hasn't been healthy this season. I'd bite if the price was right.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:07 pm
by SDC
ShelC wrote:I think Toronto might have the most interest. They really need a wing defender.
yeah, that demarre carroll thing didnt work out.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:08 pm
by SDC
djy2j wrote:Other tweets suggest "Celtics deep in trade talks on PJ Tucker"

Not sure how credible but it is what it is.
that ainge mcdo connection again. i just hope the suns dont get fleeced this time around.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:14 pm
by ShelC
Jeff Green and a 2nd rounder please for Knight please.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:39 pm
by carey
I don't understand the rush. We aren't making a playoff push. We don't need the cap space. Just attempt to rehab his value. He could go on a hot streak to finish the season and we can trade him in the Summer. If you want to dump him, fine, but acting like he's some huge impediment to our success right now is disingenuous.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:45 pm
by Split T
Shabazz wrote:I've actually always liked Favors, but he only works as a center in the current NBA. He's not a fit next to either Len or Chandler. I do like his fit next to Bender and Chriss.

Not a fan of his contract situation, though. He also hasn't been healthy this season. I'd bite if the price was right.
He's cheaper next year than Len will be and a better player than Len. He's not a great center, but a solid one. He rebounds, plays defense, can block some shots and is decent at getting the ball in the basket from 15 feet and in.

If it's something like Tucker and a Miami 1st I'd do it. We'd have to move Len somewhere as well.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:54 pm
by specialsauce
carey wrote:I don't understand the rush. We aren't making a playoff push. We don't need the cap space. Just attempt to rehab his value. He could go on a hot streak to finish the season and we can trade him in the Summer. If you want to dump him, fine, but acting like he's some huge impediment to our success right now is disingenuous.

He is absolutely an impediment. This is half a season we could devote to playing Tyler Ulis as our first guard off the bench and seeing what we have in him. As long as Knight is on the team Watson will feel obligated to give him PT

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:00 pm
by jonh
Do the Suns leverage interest in Tucker by including Knight in a deal somewhere?

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:06 pm
by Split T
Favors per 36 for points, rebounds, and blocks last two years:

14.1/9.3/1.3 this year (hasn't been healthy)
18.4/9.1/1.7 last year

Alex Len over the same time:

13.8/11.7/2.3 this year
13.9/11.7/1.2 last year


So not a huge difference, Len is a better rebounder but Favors rebounding numbers were better before Gobert and may go back up once he's a full time center. I like favors more and we'd get him at 11 million next year before free agency. He'll be 25 at the start of next season, so he's still young.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:08 pm
by specialsauce
I wouldn't trade any assets for Favors. I'd trade Tucker or Chandler or both.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:13 pm
by UglyTruth
specialsauce wrote:
carey wrote:I don't understand the rush. We aren't making a playoff push. We don't need the cap space. Just attempt to rehab his value. He could go on a hot streak to finish the season and we can trade him in the Summer. If you want to dump him, fine, but acting like he's some huge impediment to our success right now is disingenuous.

He is absolutely an impediment. This is half a season we could devote to playing Tyler Ulis as our first guard off the bench and seeing what we have in him. As long as Knight is on the team Watson will feel obligated to give him PT
^this.

And not only that, Knight's value can only get worse. He's shown that time and time again.

Ever since we traded for him, his value has been dropping and dropping.

He's literally the worst player in the entire NBA right now.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:18 pm
by carey
UglyTruth wrote:He's literally the worst player in the entire NBA right now.
I'm sorry, but that's just silly. He's not played well this season, but I'd hardly say he's the worst player in the league.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:22 pm
by UglyTruth
carey wrote:
UglyTruth wrote:He's literally the worst player in the entire NBA right now.
I'm sorry, but that's just silly. He's not played well this season, but I'd hardly say he's the worst player in the league.
Statistically he is.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:23 pm
by UglyTruth
https://twitter.com/MikeAScoto/status/834221681967247360 edit: its fake

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:36 pm
by jonh
UglyTruth wrote:https://twitter.com/MikeAScoto/status/834221681967247360 f*** yes!! Finally. Let's all go to a bar somewhere in Phoenix this weekend and I'll get two rounds on me to celebrate this!!! I'm being serious if yall are down!
Any confirmation of this rumor?

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:43 pm
by Gladiator
UglyTruth wrote:https://twitter.com/MikeAScoto/status/834221681967247360 f*** yes!! Finally. Let's all go to a bar somewhere in Phoenix this weekend and I'll get two rounds on me to celebrate this!!! I'm being serious if yall are down!
Not sure I'd trust that account.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:45 pm
by Split T
Account only has two followers and reported favors for deron Williams and Rubio for rose already as well. I think it's fake.