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I think we're overrating TJ a bit.

Not really. I don't love TJ. I just don't like a single piece coming back. They're all average players who would do well on a contending team but none are players you hold for the future or difference makers. Pointless trade IMO.

I agree with Sauce, The suns have pieces to put together to make a run at a Star (Chriss,Bender,Warren,Len,Bledsoe,Picks) and also pieces that could be shipped off for picks or younger players to contenders (Tucker,Chandler,Knight). If they don't get either I'm really not interested in a "bit" piece package. Crowder, Johnson, and co is a package that wouldn't interest me. I'd love to somehow get my hands on Bobby Portis from Chicago, but Chicago looks more likely to be a seller of their vets then a buyer.

Zeller, O'Quinn, and Johnson are just role players that wouldn't make alot of sense here unless we packaged them for a bigger name. Warren has more potential then all those guys IMO. I do like Jae crowder and his contract is really good for what he produces. I guess it just depends on if you rather have him then T.J.

https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/833446981074821120 https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/833469366247251970 Not Suns related as such (the talks have been with New Orleans apparently) but interesting nonetheless

What does New Orleans even have offer for a player of that caliber? They certainly wouldnt trade Davis, thats a step back.

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:What does New Orleans even have offer for a player of that caliber? They certainly wouldnt trade Davis, thats a step back.

I think they're offering everyone except Davis (Holiday, Hield, draft picks). ESPN is reporting they asked Indiana about Paul George as well.

Gladiator wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:What does New Orleans even have offer for a player of that caliber? They certainly wouldnt trade Davis, thats a step back.

I think they're offering everyone except Davis (Holiday, Hield, draft picks). ESPN is reporting they asked Indiana about Paul George as well.

Report was they offered their 2017 unprotected, another unprotected, and Hield. Peanuts.

Stein was just on and said the biggest names out there in terms of trade talks are Cousins, Melo, Butler and George but he doesn't expect any of them to get moved. I wish we had a package to offer for George. Love his game and we'd have tremendous offensive potential adding him to the perimeter.

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Gladiator wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:What does New Orleans even have offer for a player of that caliber? They certainly wouldnt trade Davis, thats a step back.

I think they're offering everyone except Davis (Holiday, Hield, draft picks). ESPN is reporting they asked Indiana about Paul George as well.

Report was they offered their 2017 unprotected, another unprotected, and Hield. Peanuts.

I'm not even a Cousins guy, but that offer is laughable at best.

Here is why Boogie wants to stay in Sacramento so badly. Getting traded will cost him $40 million or so on his extension deal. Its about the "designated player" provision in the new CBA. It is designed to keep players like Shaq (Orlando) or LeBron (originally at Cleveland) on the teams that drafted them. This makes early lottery picks even more valuable, and makes superstars harder to get through trade.

Here is the quote:

http://www.nba.com/article/2016/12/19/m ... tv-revenue

Those players were eligible to get up to the max for players with less than seven years’ experience in the final year of their rookie contracts -- 25 percent of the cap. But they could also earn up to 30 percent of the cap in their new deals if they reached certain criteria while on their rookie deals: being named to the first, second or third All-NBA team twice, being voted in as a starter to the All-Star team twice or winning the NBA Most Valuable Player award once. (That’s why the DPE is better known as the “Derrick Rose Rule,” after the then-Bulls guard won the MVP award in 2011.)

The new CBA will have four designated player exceptions -- two for players still on their rookie deals, and two new ones for veterans. They will work as before: a team can now give up to four players on its roster a new six-year contract -- a five-year max extension added to the final year of their existing deals.

The idea is to give the incumbent team still more chances to keep its core group together.

The veteran DPE can be used either to give a player an extension or to re-sign him as a free agent. Players have to have been drafted by their current teams to be eligible for the extension or for the team to use the DPE to re-sign them as free agents.

Sunsfan4life wrote:I agree with Sauce, The suns have pieces to put together to make a run at a Star (Chriss,Bender,Warren,Len,Bledsoe,Picks) and also pieces that could be shipped off for picks or younger players to contenders (Tucker,Chandler,Knight). If they don't get either I'm really not interested in a "bit" piece package. Crowder, Johnson, and co is a package that wouldn't interest me. I'd love to somehow get my hands on Bobby Portis from Chicago, but Chicago looks more likely to be a seller of their vets then a buyer.

Zeller, O'Quinn, and Johnson are just role players that wouldn't make alot of sense here unless we packaged them for a bigger name. Warren has more potential then all those guys IMO. I do like Jae crowder and his contract is really good for what he produces. I guess it just depends on if you rather have him then T.J.

+1. Except I'm not a big Crowder guy. I'd rather keep the status quo.

All those other players are the same mold as the Josh Childress, Hakim Warrick and Hedo Turkoglu acquisitions

Boogie will probably wait until he re-signs at the higher Sacramento contract amount, then demand a trade almost immediately thereafter. Assuming you can do that under the CBA, that is.

I don't like that proposed Crowder trade. I would have been more interested if we were not sending out TJ Warren. I don't want to give up on Warren just yet. I want to see if he gets back to his old self after an offseason to rest and practice.

https://twitter.com/HoopsRumors/status/833422921490128898

Interesting. I wonder what the Celtics would give up for Tucker

Gladiator wrote:Interesting. I wonder what the Celtics would give up for Tucker

Euro stash and a 2nd.

Painful to see what the All-Star Game has become.

Hopefully the trade action over the break and up to the deadline will be a little better.

Gladiator wrote:Interesting. I wonder what the Celtics would give up for Tucker

I'll take Guerschon Yabusele. I liked him in last years draft.

https://twitter.com/DaveKingNBA/status/833517772969762818

This is what McD was stocking up for, interested to see if we can get anything done.