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Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:22 pm
by Cap
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:Apparently they acquired Scott to help reach the salary floor.
The s*** thing about that is, if they hadn't reached the salary floor, they would have been required to pay the difference to their roster and split it among their current players. So basically this is a passive aggressive way of them telling the entire roster, "We would rather give this complete scrub $3m than let you guys have it."
They just have to be at the salary floor by the end of the season.
Two thirds of the season are already gone, so they only have to pay $1M to Scott, instead of distributing $3M to the other players.The CBA is so darn weird.
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:37 pm
by Shabazz
Cap wrote:Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:Apparently they acquired Scott to help reach the salary floor.
The s*** thing about that is, if they hadn't reached the salary floor, they would have been required to pay the difference to their roster and split it among their current players. So basically this is a passive aggressive way of them telling the entire roster, "We would rather give this complete scrub $3m than let you guys have it."
They just have to be at the salary floor by the end of the season.
Two thirds of the season are already gone, so they only have to pay $1M to Scott, instead of distributing $3M to the other players.The CBA is so darn weird.
This rule was actually changed in the new CBA.
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:13 pm
by carey
Shabazz wrote:Cap wrote:Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:Apparently they acquired Scott to help reach the salary floor.
The s*** thing about that is, if they hadn't reached the salary floor, they would have been required to pay the difference to their roster and split it among their current players. So basically this is a passive aggressive way of them telling the entire roster, "We would rather give this complete scrub $3m than let you guys have it."
They just have to be at the salary floor by the end of the season.
Two thirds of the season are already gone, so they only have to pay $1M to Scott, instead of distributing $3M to the other players.The CBA is so darn weird.
This rule was actually changed in the new CBA.
To what?
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:16 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
I read in an article that they are changing it to money spent during the year, as in, how much days you actually have to pay every contract for the players that were on your team, or so.
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:17 pm
by Cap
Shabazz wrote:Cap wrote:Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:Apparently they acquired Scott to help reach the salary floor.
The s*** thing about that is, if they hadn't reached the salary floor, they would have been required to pay the difference to their roster and split it among their current players. So basically this is a passive aggressive way of them telling the entire roster, "We would rather give this complete scrub $3m than let you guys have it."
They just have to be at the salary floor by the end of the season.
Two thirds of the season are already gone, so they only have to pay $1M to Scott, instead of distributing $3M to the other players.The CBA is so darn weird.
This rule was actually changed in the new CBA.
So now it's based on total salary paid over the year?
Then how does this move profit the Suns? We actually sent cash to Atl in the deal.
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:19 pm
by Aztec Sunsfan
This year still applies the current rule.
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:29 pm
by OE32
I have no problem cutting costs in years where we're not competing, provided it doesn't cost us anything. And here, it didn't.
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:34 pm
by In2ition
Hmm, I'm trying to figure out how the Suns saved money on this deal. And, they would rather give Atl money along with paying for Mike Scott's salary instead of dividing up the money with the roster?
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:37 pm
by JCSunsfan
This is just good business for bean counters. It has no impact on the court at all. No point in even discussing it.
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:41 pm
by Shabazz
In2ition wrote:Hmm, I'm trying to figure out how the Suns saved money on this deal. And, they would rather give Atl money along with paying for Mike Scott's salary instead of dividing up the money with the roster?
From Kevin Pelton
This trade brought the Suns almost up to the team salary minimum, saving Phoenix about $2.4 million because Scott's entire salary counts against the minimum but only the remaining portion (a little less than a million dollars) will be paid by the team. Add in the cash the Suns received and they came out well ahead financially.
My suspicion is Phoenix will waive Scott and use his roster spot to re-sign veteran guard Ronnie Price for the remainder of the season now that he's reached the maximum two possible 10-day contracts.
He's wrong about the Suns receiving Cash, but even if they sent Atlanta $200K, they pocket the remaining savings.
If the Suns would have gone the money distribution route, they would have had to distribute the full amount.
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Sco
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:43 pm
by Split T
In2ition wrote:Hmm, I'm trying to figure out how the Suns saved money on this deal. And, they would rather give Atl money along with paying for Mike Scott's salary instead of dividing up the money with the roster?
Edit: What shabazz said
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:17 pm
by carey
https://twitter.com/TheMattPetersen/status/834918310680608768
How strange.
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:21 pm
by Shabazz
That guy has been part of like 20 trades already.
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:24 pm
by carey
Do rights expire at any point?
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:26 pm
by The Bobster
They'll probably assign him to run their Scranton branch.
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:27 pm
by The Bobster
carey wrote:Do rights expire at any point?
Death.
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:10 pm
by In2ition
carey wrote:https://twitter.com/TheMattPetersen/status/834918310680608768
How strange.
Isn't he on the Young Turks?
Re: Suns send 2nd Rounder to Hawks for Mike Scott
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:23 am
by Ring_Wanted
carey wrote:https://twitter.com/TheMattPetersen/status/834918310680608768
How strange.
Yeah, but sometimes stuff like this happens. Like those ultraprotected seconds, it is at least something to trade. For instance, the rights to Albert Miralles (drafted in 2004) were sent in 2016 by the Bucks to Cleveland for Delly.