Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:05 pm
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Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:07 pm
He helped turn the culture around, I’ll give him that.
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:08 pm
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:14 pm
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:15 pm
He helped change the culture.
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:15 pm
I wonder if it would now be possible to salvage Ayton. How much of that was on Monty? How much on Ayton? Guess it depends on the offers made.
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:20 pm
I think Book is done with Ayton too
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:22 pm
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:26 pm
He didn't deserve all the blame of course, but coaches are basically hired to be fired for the most part. I think the Suns were at the point where it became something they had to consider.
I think it might buy Ayton another year here, depending on who they hire and their opinion of him. I'm a little wary of them trading him and then they have another situation like Bridges where they use him differently and find he was capable of a lot more than they got from him here,
But there's plenty of other things to point to - injuries to Durant late in the season and Paul during the playoffs, Ayton's low-energy play, Booker's poor performances in elimination games, the lack of a dependable bench, etc.
They'd better roll up their sleves and get to work - it's going to take some shrewd moves to manuver around a looming tax apron, and adding to this team may get expensive over the next couple of yers. Get your checkbook out Mat!
I think it might buy Ayton another year here, depending on who they hire and their opinion of him. I'm a little wary of them trading him and then they have another situation like Bridges where they use him differently and find he was capable of a lot more than they got from him here,
But there's plenty of other things to point to - injuries to Durant late in the season and Paul during the playoffs, Ayton's low-energy play, Booker's poor performances in elimination games, the lack of a dependable bench, etc.
They'd better roll up their sleves and get to work - it's going to take some shrewd moves to manuver around a looming tax apron, and adding to this team may get expensive over the next couple of yers. Get your checkbook out Mat!
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:29 pm
You wonder what they can do with CP3. He can still help turn a bottom feeding team around in a trade.The Bobster wrote: ↑Sat May 13, 2023 7:26 pmHe didn't deserve all the blame of course, but coaches are basically hired to be fired for the most part. I think the Suns were at the point where it became something they had to consider.
I think it might buy Ayton another year here, depending on who they hire and their opinion of him. I'm a little wary of them trading him and then they have another situation like Bridges where they use him differently and find he was capable of a lot more than they got from him here,
But there's plenty of other things to point to - injuries to Durant late in the season and Paul during the playoffs, Ayton's low-energy play, Booker's poor performances in elimination games, the lack of a dependable bench, etc.
They'd better roll up their sleves and get to work - it's going to take some shrewd moves to manuver around a looming tax apron, and adding to this team may get expensive over the next couple of yers. Get your checkbook out Mat!
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:38 pm
Needed to be done. Now wait for whatever team signs Monty and trade CP3 and Shamet there.
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:41 pm
I'm not a Shamet fan, but his stats here are practically identical to what he was before coming here. I don't know what James Jones thought he was getting, but he shouldn't have been surprised. And signing him to a new contract extension before even seeing him on the floor was a mistake. But pretty much everybody here has said that. Hopefully he learned something from it.
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:43 pm
And every team Shamet has been on lost in the second round of the playoffs.
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:46 pm
I don;t think that has much to do with Shamet himself, he's not a postseason rotation player and shouldn't be used as one. Of course the Suns only had a couple of serviceable bench players.
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:46 pm
I think this makes it even more likely that Chris Paul has played his last game as a Sun.
It was pretty obvious from both Chris and Monty’s answers in their exit interviews that they were certainly not given any assurances that they would be back…so I could kind of see the writing on the wall especially with Monty.
I’m not surprised by the move, but I am surprised at just how quickly public sentiment turned against Monty.
It was pretty obvious from both Chris and Monty’s answers in their exit interviews that they were certainly not given any assurances that they would be back…so I could kind of see the writing on the wall especially with Monty.
I’m not surprised by the move, but I am surprised at just how quickly public sentiment turned against Monty.
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 8:06 pm
Ty Lue would be a great fit. I also really like Nurse.
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 8:11 pm
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 8:11 pm
Isn't this the way things always are?JeremyG wrote: ↑Sat May 13, 2023 7:46 pmI think this makes it even more likely that Chris Paul has played his last game as a Sun.
It was pretty obvious from both Chris and Monty’s answers in their exit interviews that they were certainly not given any assurances that they would be back…so I could kind of see the writing on the wall especially with Monty.
I’m not surprised by the move, but I am surprised at just how quickly public sentiment turned against Monty.
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 8:21 pm
From the Woj article:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/376 ... -4-seasonsIshbia has fully taken over the franchise's basketball operations, including the negotiation of the February trade for Kevin Durant and now the dismissal of Williams. Suns GM James Jones called Williams on Saturday night and delivered the news to him, sources said.
Ishbia had never warmed to Williams as his coach, and decided quickly after Thursday night's loss to the Denver Nuggets in Game 6 of the Western Conference semifinals that he would fire him, sources said.
Re: Monty Williams Fired
Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 8:30 pm
Lue is supposedly under contract for 3 more years….why would LA let him go to us?
Makes no sense
Makes no sense