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Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:44 pm
by JeremyG


Charlotte is not allowed to re-acquire Micic before July 1, so this is another post-moratorium trade that can’t be completed until July 6.

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:51 pm
by Split T
Micic is the big winner here…he was not getting 8 million. Believe he was even headed over seas.

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:53 pm
by JeremyG
I remember hearing that he preferred to go overseas. Maybe they’ll buy him out.

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:54 pm
by Uncle_Gene
3TheHardaway wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:29 pm
Uncle_Gene wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:29 pm
I believe Nick Richards is staying. Suns need as much size as possible.

I like this trade. 👍
He seems like he’d only get in the way of Oso and Khaman getting minutes to develop.
Possibly. I'm just tired of the Suns getting beat up in the paint.

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:57 pm
by Shabazz
Assuming good health, this is the best I’ve felt about our interior D since…..?

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:58 pm
by JJ Slim
Now we need a PG

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:59 pm
by Wally_West
Not worried about Oso’s development either. Williams is probably gonna miss time lol. So he’ll have an opportunities to play.

Definitely think Richards getting traded tonight or tomorrow. Cheap contract, solid back up, hopefully get a second or two.

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:02 pm
by Drewsprocket
Damn helluva trade. Williams, Dunn, Brooks, Green, Book. That’s a lot of size and D in our frontcourt. Dunn better be shooting 3s all summer in time for the fall.

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:02 pm
by Shabazz


I think this could be true. And we still probably made the right pick, although for future roster balance I wonder if we should have gone for Carter Bryant.

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:10 pm
by ShelC
Certainly possible. They probably figured CMB would be there and they could pair him nicely with Williams but got caught off guard by the Raps' pick. They can dodge a bullet if Maluach works out but still not a good look for the front office.

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:13 pm
by JJ Slim
Could the Suns change their mind and backout? I mean the Warriors did it to us.

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:13 pm
by Sunsfan4life
So…wasn’t Mark Williams flagged by the Lakers? Is he fully healthy?

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:34 pm
by JeremyG
JJ Slim wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:13 pm
Could the Suns change their mind and backout? I mean the Warriors did it to us.
If he fails his physical. But then we’ll be stuck with whoever Charlotte wants at #29.

So stupid to give up two firsts to trade for a guy with health issues. This FO continues to amaze…and not in a good way.

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:14 pm
by JeremyG
We couldn’t get two firsts for KD (for either a 1-year rental or from his preferred teams), but we happily give up two firsts for a 1-year rental of a (injury-plagued) Mark Williams?

Make it make sense.

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:18 pm
by Shabazz
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:14 pm
We couldn’t get two firsts for KD (for either a 1-year rental or from his preferred teams), but we happily give up two firsts for a 1-year rental of a (injury-plagued) Mark Williams?

Make it make sense.
Firsts in the 20s are an order of magnitude less valuable than unprotected future picks and the 10th pick.

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:22 pm
by JeremyG
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:18 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:14 pm
We couldn’t get two firsts for KD (for either a 1-year rental or from his preferred teams), but we happily give up two firsts for a 1-year rental of a (injury-plagued) Mark Williams?

Make it make sense.
Firsts in the 20s are an order of magnitude less valuable than unprotected future picks and the 10th pick.
We have no clue where that 2029 pick will end up. It depends on how those teams are doing 4 years from now.

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:36 pm
by Split T
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:22 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:18 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:14 pm
We couldn’t get two firsts for KD (for either a 1-year rental or from his preferred teams), but we happily give up two firsts for a 1-year rental of a (injury-plagued) Mark Williams?

Make it make sense.
Firsts in the 20s are an order of magnitude less valuable than unprotected future picks and the 10th pick.
We have no clue where that 2029 pick will end up. It depends on how those teams are doing 4 years from now.
It’s the worst of 3 picks…you know the 10th pick is way more valuable than those 2…I’d even bet you’ve complained about trading our 2031 pick for that crappy 2029 pick in the past

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:52 pm
by JeremyG
Split T wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:36 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:22 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:18 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:14 pm
We couldn’t get two firsts for KD (for either a 1-year rental or from his preferred teams), but we happily give up two firsts for a 1-year rental of a (injury-plagued) Mark Williams?

Make it make sense.
Firsts in the 20s are an order of magnitude less valuable than unprotected future picks and the 10th pick.
We have no clue where that 2029 pick will end up. It depends on how those teams are doing 4 years from now.
It’s the worst of 3 picks…you know the 10th pick is way more valuable than those 2…I’d even bet you’ve complained about trading our 2031 pick for that crappy 2029 pick in the past
So we’ve really just wasted our unprotected 2031 pick on this trade…you’re not helping me feel any better.

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:57 pm
by INFORMER
O_Gardino wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 6:25 pm
Windhorst was saying that Williams isn't healthy and won't be extended at the end of the season. The Suns get a starting center to take pressure off of Maluach while he develops and money off the books next summer. According to Windhorst.
That's asinine.

Re: Suns trade for Mark Williams

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:59 pm
by Split T
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:52 pm
Split T wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:36 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:22 pm
Shabazz wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:18 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:14 pm
We couldn’t get two firsts for KD (for either a 1-year rental or from his preferred teams), but we happily give up two firsts for a 1-year rental of a (injury-plagued) Mark Williams?

Make it make sense.
Firsts in the 20s are an order of magnitude less valuable than unprotected future picks and the 10th pick.
We have no clue where that 2029 pick will end up. It depends on how those teams are doing 4 years from now.
It’s the worst of 3 picks…you know the 10th pick is way more valuable than those 2…I’d even bet you’ve complained about trading our 2031 pick for that crappy 2029 pick in the past
So we’ve really just wasted our unprotected 2031 pick on this trade…you’re not helping me feel any better.
2/3 of it…. Also I thought you liked defense and rebounding…that’s what we just added.

I think it’s weird we double dipped…shades of drafting Chriss and Bender, but I think the moves make sense individually.

I hope one of them shoots eventually. FT% is promising for both. Pretty big hole at the 1 and 4 still…though it seems Booker might be playing pg next year at this rate.