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Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:51 am
by ShelC
Yea, and there was also mention that Hornacek may have limited him a bit to keep him from going hero-ball against his former team.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:44 am
by Shabazz
The Suns just sent Warren and Ennis to the D-League.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:27 pm
by In2ition
Good, at least they will get some playing time.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:42 pm
by Superbone
Shabazz wrote:The Suns just sent Warren and Ennis to the D-League.
I hope they dominate.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:08 pm
by LazarusLong
Shabazz wrote:The Suns just sent Warren and Ennis to the D-League.
This is good news. I hope Warren tears it up; if so, we might see him with Phoenix, taking Shav's/Tolliver's minutes.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:29 pm
by Indy
LazarusLong wrote:
Shabazz wrote:The Suns just sent Warren and Ennis to the D-League.
This is good news. I hope Warren tears it up; if so, we might see him with Phoenix, taking Shav's/Tolliver's minutes.
You think so? They have him by 20-30 pounds and Shav is 2" taller. I just don't see him as a stretch 4 at that size.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:55 pm
by LazarusLong
Indy wrote:
LazarusLong wrote:
Shabazz wrote:The Suns just sent Warren and Ennis to the D-League.
This is good news. I hope Warren tears it up; if so, we might see him with Phoenix, taking Shav's/Tolliver's minutes.
You think so? They have him by 20-30 pounds and Shav is 2" taller. I just don't see him as a stretch 4 at that size.
You may be right. But he did play inside some in college. He's active, he rebounds and he scores. Remember a lot of people thought Marion was too small to play 4. Now ... I'm not saying TJ is the next Matrix. But for five-10 minutes at a time, he could be valuable in an uptempo offense.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:56 pm
by Indy
LazarusLong wrote:
Indy wrote:
LazarusLong wrote:
Shabazz wrote:The Suns just sent Warren and Ennis to the D-League.
This is good news. I hope Warren tears it up; if so, we might see him with Phoenix, taking Shav's/Tolliver's minutes.
You think so? They have him by 20-30 pounds and Shav is 2" taller. I just don't see him as a stretch 4 at that size.
You may be right. But he did play inside some in college. He's active, he rebounds and he scores. Remember a lot of people thought Marion was too small to play 4. Now ... I'm not saying TJ is the next Matrix. But for five-10 minutes at a time, he could be valuable in an uptempo offense.
Fair enough. And I am for any option that doesn't include Shav or Tolliver.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:02 pm
by Shabazz
Indy wrote:
LazarusLong wrote:
Shabazz wrote:The Suns just sent Warren and Ennis to the D-League.
This is good news. I hope Warren tears it up; if so, we might see him with Phoenix, taking Shav's/Tolliver's minutes.
You think so? They have him by 20-30 pounds and Shav is 2" taller. I just don't see him as a stretch 4 at that size.
Honestly, I think it's a no brainer. Warren is better than Shav & Tolliver right now, a big part of our future, and he'd be sharing the court with Tucker or Marcus, both capable of moonlighting as a 4.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:11 pm
by In2ition
Shabazz wrote:
Indy wrote:
LazarusLong wrote:
Shabazz wrote:The Suns just sent Warren and Ennis to the D-League.
This is good news. I hope Warren tears it up; if so, we might see him with Phoenix, taking Shav's/Tolliver's minutes.
You think so? They have him by 20-30 pounds and Shav is 2" taller. I just don't see him as a stretch 4 at that size.
Honestly, I think it's a no brainer. Warren is better than Shav & Tolliver right now, a big part of our future, and he'd be sharing the court with Tucker or Marcus, both capable of moonlighting as a 4.
I agree with you, but it seems that the coaching staff still needs to see some things out of Warren first. I have a feeling that we may not see much of him all season.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:41 pm
by Shabazz
In2ition wrote:
Shabazz wrote:
Indy wrote:
LazarusLong wrote:
Shabazz wrote:The Suns just sent Warren and Ennis to the D-League.
This is good news. I hope Warren tears it up; if so, we might see him with Phoenix, taking Shav's/Tolliver's minutes.
You think so? They have him by 20-30 pounds and Shav is 2" taller. I just don't see him as a stretch 4 at that size.
Honestly, I think it's a no brainer. Warren is better than Shav & Tolliver right now, a big part of our future, and he'd be sharing the court with Tucker or Marcus, both capable of moonlighting as a 4.
I agree with you, but it seems that the coaching staff still needs to see some things out of Warren first. I have a feeling that we may not see much of him all season.
You think it's something in practice? He was good in college, Summer League and the preseason. Hard to see those "things" in regular season game action if he's not getting any.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:49 pm
by INFORMER
It's just because there are 3 vets in front of him; Warren is ready to play now.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:56 pm
by Superbone
In2ition wrote:
Shabazz wrote:
Indy wrote:
LazarusLong wrote:
Shabazz wrote:The Suns just sent Warren and Ennis to the D-League.
This is good news. I hope Warren tears it up; if so, we might see him with Phoenix, taking Shav's/Tolliver's minutes.
You think so? They have him by 20-30 pounds and Shav is 2" taller. I just don't see him as a stretch 4 at that size.
Honestly, I think it's a no brainer. Warren is better than Shav & Tolliver right now, a big part of our future, and he'd be sharing the court with Tucker or Marcus, both capable of moonlighting as a 4.
I agree with you, but it seems that the coaching staff still needs to see some things out of Warren first. I have a feeling that we may not see much of him all season.
My feeling is he'll be a regular part of the rotation by mid-season.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:27 pm
by LazarusLong
INFORMER wrote:It's just because there are 3 vets in front of him; Warren is ready to play now.
I tend to agree. THe D League assignment is less about proving himself and more about knocking the dust off his game and fine-tuning after the layoff. He's a plug-and-play guy, sort of like Ced Ceballos, which is why he should be great coming off the bench.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:32 am
by Mori Chu
Goodwin is also a very talented player, but he isn't getting minutes yet. It takes time for rookies when you have a deep and talented squad.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:34 am
by Danimal
Hi folks.

What do you guys think of the comments that they send guys to down to the d-league for short stints only rather than extended time. Kind of seems like a continuation of what we have done in the past. Unless they plan to do it more regularly than in the past. I imagine the d-league stints should be more beneficial now given we have more control over the playing style now.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:41 am
by Superbone
Danimal wrote:Hi folks.

What do you guys think of the comments that they send guys to down to the d-league for short stints only rather than extended time. Kind of seems like a continuation of what we have done in the past. Unless they plan to do it more regularly than in the past. I imagine the d-league stints should be more beneficial now given we have more control over the playing style now.
Lots of good information about it here:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /18998211/
Unlike Archie Goodwin's trips to Bakersfield last season, when five teams shared the affiliate, everything that Warren and Ennis have learned with the Suns since training camp now ties in to what they will do for the Jam. Bakersfield coach Nate Bjorkgren spent time with the Suns staff at summer league, training camp and part of the preseason.

"Nate's got great ideas too," Suns coach Jeff Hornacek said. "I told him anytime he comes up with something for one of the guys, if he wants to run something and says this plays runs really well with this guy, we'll take a look at it and may use it here."

Warren and Ennis are arrived on the eve of the Jam's opener but the transition is also smoothed by familiar faces. Suns preseason players Earl Barron, Joe Jackson, Casey Prather and Jamil Wilson are on the Bakersfield roster. The Jam also has Ricardo Barbosa, the nephew of Leandro Barbosa, and Elijah Millsap, the younger brother of Paul Millsap.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:04 am
by Danimal
thanks

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:48 am
by carey
Superbone wrote:Warren and Ennis are arrived on the eve of the Jam's opener but the transition is also smoothed by familiar faces. Suns preseason players Earl Barron, Joe Jackson, Casey Prather and Jamil Wilson are on the Bakersfield roster. The Jam also has Ricardo Barbosa, the nephew of Leandro Barbosa, and Elijah Millsap, the younger brother of Paul Millsap.
Of course it does.

Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/10-11/16

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:55 pm
by INFORMER
https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/533502846759485440