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Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:52 am
by carey
You guys probably don't want to listen to the Hornacek interview from today then. They asked him about Green... think it's safe to say he's gone.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:01 pm
by Indy
Yeah, it has been clear for a few months that he wasn't coming back. And despite the fact that I think he is inaccruately maligned a lot on this board for not getting his teammates involved/ball stopper, I have already accepted it.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:30 pm
by Mori Chu
I wish we could keep Green, but it also depends a lot on how much money he fetches in the open market. If he gets a decently large payday, I wouldn't really want to match that to keep him. I still think he's capable of being a stud SG off the bench on a good team. He'd be great on a team like the Spurs or Warriors.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:16 pm
by Shabazz
carey wrote:You guys probably don't want to listen to the Hornacek interview from today then. They asked him about Green... think it's safe to say he's gone.
I listened to the interview. Didn't hear anything about Green. The Bickley & Marotta interview?

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:18 pm
by ShelC
Archie had some interesting things to say in an article today. Seemed to take some shots at the coaching staff re: sub patterns and the rotation, guys not know if/when they'll play, and not having defined roles. He also said there was a void in leadership (mentioned Frye specifically, which I think has been vastly overlooked) and that guys seemed too content to just try and score rather than play team ball.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:53 pm
by Superbone
ShelC wrote:...and that guys seemed too content to just try and score rather than play team ball.
That has been very apparent.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:04 pm
by JCSunsfan
ShelC wrote:Archie had some interesting things to say in an article today. Seemed to take some shots at the coaching staff re: sub patterns and the rotation, guys not know if/when they'll play, and not having defined roles. He also said there was a void in leadership (mentioned Frye specifically, which I think has been vastly overlooked) and that guys seemed too content to just try and score rather than play team ball.
Jeff said they have a lot of young players and do lack leadership. Said that Archie was right, he needs guys who think about scoring less and passing more. Regarding Archie's comment about not having defined roles, he said thats what players say when they don't think they get enough playing time.

He seemed to intimate they will look for lockerroom leadership in free agency. Open to the possibility of trying to see if some young player now steps us. Oddly, when Archie was mentioned in that regard he said we need one of our "core" guys to step up. Clearly Jeff does not see Archie as a core player.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:06 pm
by Superbone
I liked what Archie had to say. Everything he was saying is what I've noticed as well.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:16 pm
by carey
Shabazz wrote:
carey wrote:You guys probably don't want to listen to the Hornacek interview from today then. They asked him about Green... think it's safe to say he's gone.
I listened to the interview. Didn't hear anything about Green. The Bickley & Marotta interview?
No. This morning on Doug & Wolf.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:38 pm
by ShelC
Archie's also 20. Core guys who need to step up should be (as per their contract and thus standing on the team) Bledsoe, the Morris Bros and Tucker.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:43 pm
by TOO
ShelC wrote:Archie's also 20. Core guys who need to step up should be (as per their contract and thus standing on the team) Bledsoe, the Morris Bros and Tucker.
A mute, 2 morons, and a drunk. If those aren't leadership qualities, I guess we're doing it wrong.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:34 pm
by Indy
ShelC wrote:Archie's also 20. Core guys who need to step up should be (as per their contract and thus standing on the team) Bledsoe, the Morris Bros and Tucker.
Yeah, I have a hard time thinking of guys that play sporadically as your core. It doesn't mean they aren't in your future, but the guys that have been in a league a while, start, and you pay the most, should be your core and should be the leaders. We don't have any on the team. Jeff needs an extension of himself on the team.

I was actually thinking Granger could play that role. But I am not sure we are going to keep him around. If he doesn't opt out, it is only like 2 million. Seems like a really cheap, veteran, and smart player to have around. Even if he doesn't play much.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:41 pm
by Cap
Indy wrote:
ShelC wrote:Archie's also 20. Core guys who need to step up should be (as per their contract and thus standing on the team) Bledsoe, the Morris Bros and Tucker.
Yeah, I have a hard time thinking of guys that play sporadically as your core. It doesn't mean they aren't in your future, but the guys that have been in a league a while, start, and you pay the most, should be your core and should be the leaders. We don't have any on the team. Jeff needs an extension of himself on the team.

I was actually thinking Granger could play that role. But I am not sure we are going to keep him around. If he doesn't opt out, it is only like 2 million. Seems like a really cheap, veteran, and smart player to have around. Even if he doesn't play much.
Granger has no history here and not much of a future here. Combine that with not having much of a role in the present, and I think he'd be in a difficult place from which to exercise leadership. He's a temp.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:43 pm
by Indy
This is one big company, and we are just a division of it. He doesn't have to be a long-time Sun or the best Sun to be a leader while here. Guys don't look up to other guys based on their tenure at the current team.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 6:26 pm
by Shabazz
carey wrote:
Shabazz wrote:
carey wrote:You guys probably don't want to listen to the Hornacek interview from today then. They asked him about Green... think it's safe to say he's gone.
I listened to the interview. Didn't hear anything about Green. The Bickley & Marotta interview?
No. This morning on Doug & Wolf.
Sorry - that's what I meant. I didn't hear him mention Green at all.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:27 pm
by carey
Shabazz wrote:
Sorry - that's what I meant. I didn't hear him mention Green at all.
You know what, I tuned in a bit late and thought they were talking about the Green article and his comments. It could have been about Archie's just as well since they were very similar.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:50 pm
by carey
I missed that BK is not on the road trip & will not play again this season. What a bummer his tenure as a Sun was.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:51 pm
by carey
New article on AZ Central about the Morris twins assault situation: LINK
Phoenix police say Marcus and Markieff Morris put those words into action when they and three others committed felony aggravated assault against a man the 25-year-old twins learned had sent "inappropriate" text messages to their mother.

Police have made no arrests and no charges have been filed. A spokesman for the Maricopa County Attorney's Office confirmed Tuesday afternoon that prosecutors are continuing to review the case submitted by police.

For their part, the Morris twins have denied assaulting the reported victim, whom they also claim not to know, and their mother denies having been in contact with the man on the day of the incident, though authorities found evidence to the contrary, the police report shows.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:00 pm
by Shabazz
Yup. The Suns have done a good job burying this story but it was bound to come out. There was someone on twitter who reported almost this exact story back when we first heard about it.

Re: Suns News: Week 24 4/6-4/12

Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:05 pm
by Gladiator
It looks like they're going with the Eddie Murphy Raw defence - "Wasn't me".