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Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:48 pm
by UglyTruth
Yeah nvm its fake account, I just got far too excited when I saw it and didn't even check the profile.
Made sense since Cavs were reportedly looking for a playmaker and as bad as Knight is, he's more durable than Shumpert and offers more playmaking than Shumpert too.
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:00 pm
by Cap
UglyTruth wrote:carey wrote:UglyTruth wrote:He's literally the worst player in the entire NBA right now.
I'm sorry, but that's just silly. He's not played well this season, but I'd hardly say he's the worst player in the league.
Statistically he is.
ESPN's Real Plus-Minus has him as the fifth-worst player in the league. Worse: Brandon Ingraham, Jahlil Okafor, Mario Hezonja and Semaj Christon.
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/ ... 2/sort/RPM
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:13 pm
by carey
Oh, +/-. Then he's definitely the worst.
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:29 pm
by Split T
He's #201 in PER
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:44 pm
by carey
Man, that's rough. 15 players per team with 30 teams. Definitely the worst player in the NBA.
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:56 pm
by UglyTruth
Sad that him being #201 is supposed to be seen as a good thing
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:59 pm
by Cap
9th worst in VORP.
http://bkref.com/tiny/re7pO
Actually, our whole roster sucks at VORP. Our only players with positive VORP are Bledsoe, Tucker, Chandler, Dudley and (barely) Warren.
http://bkref.com/tiny/h00iw
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:21 pm
by SDC
bledsoe has a higher VORP than blake griffin.
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:30 pm
by INFORMER
I would love to move Bledsoe for Khris Middleton/Malcolm Brogdon/1st rounder.
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:35 pm
by UglyTruth
INFORMER wrote:I would love to move Bledsoe for Khris Middleton/Malcolm Brogdon/1st rounder.
This is actually a really nice deal. Middleton has the size to play SF too.
If the Bucks are willing to make that pick unprotected then I'd throw Warren into the deal too.
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:47 pm
by SDC
INFORMER wrote:I would love to move Bledsoe for Khris Middleton/Malcolm Brogdon/1st rounder.
would milwaukee bite?
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:52 pm
by INFORMER
SDC wrote:INFORMER wrote:I would love to move Bledsoe for Khris Middleton/Malcolm Brogdon/1st rounder.
would milwaukee bite?
If I were Milwaukee, I wouldn't. Taking the ball out of Antetokounmpo's hands and putting it Bledsoe's hands is a good way to drive your team further under .500.
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:15 pm
by SDC
which team would want an eric bledsoe, aside from cleveland?
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:37 am
by UglyTruth
INFORMER wrote:SDC wrote:INFORMER wrote:I would love to move Bledsoe for Khris Middleton/Malcolm Brogdon/1st rounder.
would milwaukee bite?
If I were Milwaukee, I wouldn't. Taking the ball out of Antetokounmpo's hands and putting it Bledsoe's hands is a good way to drive your team further under .500.
Bledsoe can play off ball since he can then go back to being an excellent defender without having the pressure to do so much on offense anymore and he can rebound and cut pretty well for a PG.
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:39 am
by UglyTruth
SDC wrote:which team would want an eric bledsoe, aside from cleveland?
Philadelphia (LAL pick back?), Chicago, Denver, NY, Brooklyn, Detroit, Milwaukee, Orlando, Dallas and Minnesota.
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:29 am
by Superbone
Man, UT, you had me hopeful only to be slammed back to reality.
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:19 am
by virtual9mm
I do think that Bledsoe should be the one who should be traded right now. Start Knight and give him a chance to rehabilitate his value. If he crimps the development of Booker and the other players, make him a 15 mpg starter and let Ulis run the show off the bench.
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:55 am
by Superbone
http://arizonasports.com/story/1030701/ ... ck-favors/
Report: Suns interested in Jazz forward Derrick Favors
The NBA trade deadline hits Thursday afternoon and the Phoenix Suns continue to be connected to rumors around the league.
While Phoenix GM Ryan McDonough wasn’t able to put together a deal to land Sacramento center DeMarcus Cousins, who ended up in New Orleans, he might not be done trying to engineer a deal.
According to Tony Jones of the Salt Lake Tribune, the Suns have interest in Utah Jazz power forward Derrick Favors.
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:26 am
by ShelC
The only way I'm OK with Favors is if Knight is in the deal. And even if we take him on without giving any salary up, which McD has mentioned in the past as some badge of honor, what does that really do for us? He's a middling player with bad knees who's a plodder and can't step out to shoot. Are we just trying to sneak into the playoffs?
Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:32 am
by djy2j
virtual9mm wrote:I do think that Bledsoe should be the one who should be traded right now. Start Knight and give him a chance to rehabilitate his value. If he crimps the development of Booker and the other players, make him a 15 mpg starter and let Ulis run the show off the bench.
I can't handle watching Knight play any more meaningful minutes for this team. I just can't. Watson's tolerance of shitty play is incredibly too high. Knight would be 15th man on any other team who has a competent coach.