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Superbone wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 24, 2025 12:53 pm

From another board:

Player	Ranking	NBADraft	Tankathon	NBADraftRoom	CBSSports	Ringer	ESPN	Athletic	AVG
Flagg	1	1	1	1	1	1	H1	L1	1.00
Harper	2	2	2	2	2	2	H2	L2	2.00
Edgecombe	3	3	H3	5	L5	4	4	4	4.00
Bailey	4	4	4	H3	4	5	3	L6	4.00
Johnson	5	L8	7	4	H3	3	5	5	4.80
Knueppel	6	7	5	6	6	L7	6	H3	6.00
Maluach	7	L16	H6	9	8	9	7	11	8.80
Bryant	8	L24	12	8	10	H6	12	10	10.40
Jakucionis	9	14	10	12	7	L14	10	H7	10.60
Fears	10	H5	9	7	11	L19	8	18	10.60
Queen	11	L15	8	13	9	H8	14	12	11.20
Essengue	12	10	14	10	14	L20	H9	16	12.80
Demin	13	H9	18	11	13	11	11	L26	12.80
Murray-Boyles	14	L21	13	17	12	16	13	H8	14.20
Sorber	15	12	17	15	L22	H10	16	15	15.00
Coward	16	L25	15	16	18	15	21	H9	17.00
Berlinger	17	18	21	19	L23	18	15	H13	18.20
Clifford	18	13	20	25	16	H12	20	L25	18.80
Traore	19	H6	L24	14	15	23	23	22	19.40
Mcneeley	20	23	22	18	H17	L28	17	20	20.00
Richardson	21	L27	H11	26	19	24	18	17	20.80
Wolf	22	L32	23	22	20	H13	25	14	20.80
Newell	23	H11	16	24	21	L33	19	29	21.80
Fleming	24	H17	19	23	24	22	27	L32	23.00
Clayton	25	20	26	20	L29	25	28	H19	23.80
Riley	26	H19	25	27	L32	30	24	23	25.80

Note: It is the top 7 big boards to get each players average rank. The highest rank of each player and the lowest rank are eliminated to help reduce extremes or anomalies.

I had a boring meeting, so I fixed the formatting.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:28 pm

My top 7 picks for pick #10 (if we keep it), in order:

1. Ace Bailey (SF)
2. Nolan Traore (PG)
3. Jeremiah Fears (PG)
4. Carter Bryant (SF)
5. Collin Murray-Boyles (PF)
6. Thomas Sorber (C)
7. Derik Queen (C)

More than one of these players will almost certainly still be on the board, so I didn’t feel the need to add any others, especially ones that may drop to #29.

None of those are shooting guards. Suns need more shooting guards.

Gambo saying we love Asa Newell and had him for a workout. If we're looking to trade back a few spots, he's a guy who could still be in that 15ish range.

ShelC wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 25, 2025 9:41 am

Gambo saying we love Asa Newell and had him for a workout. If we're looking to trade back a few spots, he's a guy who could still be in that 15ish range.

His upside intrigues me greatly. Id even take him at 10 if Bryant is gone. Lefty with boom or bust potential just does it for me

I would be ecstatic if Walter Clayton was there at 29. Just reeks of a guy who’s going to have a long NBA career. A

At 29 I’d love Clayton or Traoe…both will probably be gone though

TOO wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:12 am

ShelC wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 25, 2025 9:41 am

Gambo saying we love Asa Newell and had him for a workout. If we're looking to trade back a few spots, he's a guy who could still be in that 15ish range.

His upside intrigues me greatly. Id even take him at 10 if Bryant is gone. Lefty with boom or bust potential just does it for me

Boom or bust with Asa. He is a prospect I like. But could see not make it to a 2nd contract either. His position type in the NBA is fading though…see Marvin Bagley.

Carno wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 25, 2025 9:31 am

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 24, 2025 10:28 pm

My top 7 picks for pick #10 (if we keep it), in order:

1. Ace Bailey (SF)
2. Nolan Traore (PG)
3. Jeremiah Fears (PG)
4. Carter Bryant (SF)
5. Collin Murray-Boyles (PF)
6. Thomas Sorber (C)
7. Derik Queen (C)

More than one of these players will almost certainly still be on the board, so I didn’t feel the need to add any others, especially ones that may drop to #29.

None of those are shooting guards. Suns need more shooting guards.

Queen has conditioning annd defensive issues already…I’m going to pass. So that’s who we’ll prob take haha

Sunsfan4life wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 25, 2025 11:43 am

TOO wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:12 am

ShelC wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 25, 2025 9:41 am

Gambo saying we love Asa Newell and had him for a workout. If we're looking to trade back a few spots, he's a guy who could still be in that 15ish range.

His upside intrigues me greatly. Id even take him at 10 if Bryant is gone. Lefty with boom or bust potential just does it for me

Boom or bust with Asa. He is a prospect I like. But could see not make it to a 2nd contract either. His position type in the NBA is fading though…see Marvin Bagley.

The thing I really like is that he's got a very good hook, good feet, good hands and his shot has good repeatable mechanics. Good athlete too, just needs to fill out and be better defensively. Which can be said for 95% of draft anyway.

He’s not a great rebounder. Which means we will pick him.

INF, I need to know who you want at #10.

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 25, 2025 11:52 am

He’s not a great rebounder. Which means we will pick him.

He's not a great defensive rebounder, he's a very good offensive rebounder though. Very good second jump.

I've landed on Sorber at 10 and Saraf at 29. But I honestly have less confidence about this draft than usual. I don't see a ton of separation between guys projected in and out of the lottery. For example, what's the difference between Fears and Kam Jones? Just their age? They look like the same prospect to me.

Oh, and I've cooled on Ace Baily who I used to like a lot. Too much question about his mindset with the skipped workouts, etc.

Ace Bailey is gonna need a very structured environment or he's just gonna Emoni Bates his way into obscurity.

O_Gardino wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:50 am

Superbone wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 24, 2025 12:53 pm

From another board:

Player	Ranking	NBADraft	Tankathon	NBADraftRoom	CBSSports	Ringer	ESPN	Athletic	AVG
Flagg	1	1	1	1	1	1	H1	L1	1.00
Harper	2	2	2	2	2	2	H2	L2	2.00
Edgecombe	3	3	H3	5	L5	4	4	4	4.00
Bailey	4	4	4	H3	4	5	3	L6	4.00
Johnson	5	L8	7	4	H3	3	5	5	4.80
Knueppel	6	7	5	6	6	L7	6	H3	6.00
Maluach	7	L16	H6	9	8	9	7	11	8.80
Bryant	8	L24	12	8	10	H6	12	10	10.40
Jakucionis	9	14	10	12	7	L14	10	H7	10.60
Fears	10	H5	9	7	11	L19	8	18	10.60
Queen	11	L15	8	13	9	H8	14	12	11.20
Essengue	12	10	14	10	14	L20	H9	16	12.80
Demin	13	H9	18	11	13	11	11	L26	12.80
Murray-Boyles	14	L21	13	17	12	16	13	H8	14.20
Sorber	15	12	17	15	L22	H10	16	15	15.00
Coward	16	L25	15	16	18	15	21	H9	17.00
Berlinger	17	18	21	19	L23	18	15	H13	18.20
Clifford	18	13	20	25	16	H12	20	L25	18.80
Traore	19	H6	L24	14	15	23	23	22	19.40
Mcneeley	20	23	22	18	H17	L28	17	20	20.00
Richardson	21	L27	H11	26	19	24	18	17	20.80
Wolf	22	L32	23	22	20	H13	25	14	20.80
Newell	23	H11	16	24	21	L33	19	29	21.80
Fleming	24	H17	19	23	24	22	27	L32	23.00
Clayton	25	20	26	20	L29	25	28	H19	23.80
Riley	26	H19	25	27	L32	30	24	23	25.80

Note: It is the top 7 big boards to get each players average rank. The highest rank of each player and the lowest rank are eliminated to help reduce extremes or anomalies.

I had a boring meeting, so I fixed the formatting.

You da man!

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 25, 2025 11:52 am

He’s not a great rebounder. Which means we will pick him.

Just for you, Jeremy. No rebounding for you!

iLLmatic wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:00 pm

INF, I need to know who you want at #10.

I thought I read Sorber was INF's pick at 10.

sunset rubdown wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:09 am

INFORMER wrote: ↑

Tue Jun 24, 2025 6:23 pm

I really don't want to move from 10. I feel the Suns will end up missing out on a really good prospect if they move back.

Thoughts about Derik Queen, INF?

Kind of reminds me of KAT, can score, highly skilled at the post, can shoot 3, lack of rim protection... Can easily be 20-10 player in the NBA but on the other hand we saw similar kind of players like Sullinger and Jahlil Okafor dissappear...

Sullinger is a good comp. It may sound silly, but I think he gets a lot of negative press because he plays in a baggy long-sleeve shirt. He looked like a gamer in the tournament, and he has a tenacity that could be difference in whether he will succeed.

I haven't been too high on him, and he isn't one of my preferred prospects, but I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be good. So if the Suns traded back, picked up more picks, and used one of them on him, it wouldn't be the end of the world. I would take him over CMB.

I think he's got some Al Jefferson to him, seems like he can get by just knowing how to play, but his desire leaves everything to be desired and I don't know if you can learn that.

iLLmatic wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:00 pm

INF, I need to know who you want at #10.

I love Danny Wolf. I have Carter Bryant rated higher than him because I think Bryant can be a star, and I don't think Wolf will be. But Wolf's skillset is just lethal, and I like how he fits next to Oso and Dunn.

I don't love Sorber, but I really respect what he was able to do at Georgetown. So objectively, I'd be good with him.

I've been against trading down, but if we turn 10/52/59 into 19, 22, 26, and 36, I'd want to walk away with Clayton Jr., Coward, and Raynaud.

TOO wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 25, 2025 4:54 pm

I think he's got some Al Jefferson to him, seems like he can get by just knowing how to play, but his desire leaves everything to be desired and I don't know if you can learn that.

Another great comp. Where is the lack of desire knocks coming from? I haven't seen that from what I've seen of him.