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Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Wed May 13, 2026 8:52 am
by Split T
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 12:40 am
If we still had a first rate training and medical staff instead of WebMD and ChatGPT, I would have more faith that we could rehabilitate Zion.
That was a Sarver thing…we have a training and medical staff now
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Wed May 13, 2026 9:16 am
by virtual9mm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 7:20 am
As Kevin Garnett once shouted, anything is possible. But I really doubt we will ever see Oso learn to fluidly shoot jump shots at a high percentage. He would have to totally reconstruct his shooting form from the ground up. Such a thing has happened before, but it would take months, years of concentrated work. Very few players can and do undergo such a monumental effort to change a part of their game. If Oso wants to do that, he should have been in the gym starting yesterday.
I'm expecting exactly this. He's in the top 1% of BBIQ and it's clear that his work ethic is also in the top 1-10% based on the work he put in last summer. Why shouldn't we expect further strategic thinking and effort from someone who has already demonstrated both attributes?
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Wed May 13, 2026 12:45 pm
by O_Gardino
Hard work and intelligence can only take a player as far as his talent will go. Some guys just don't have a talent for shooting.
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Wed May 13, 2026 1:32 pm
by specialsauce
virtual9mm wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 9:16 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 7:20 am
As Kevin Garnett once shouted, anything is possible. But I really doubt we will ever see Oso learn to fluidly shoot jump shots at a high percentage. He would have to totally reconstruct his shooting form from the ground up. Such a thing has happened before, but it would take months, years of concentrated work. Very few players can and do undergo such a monumental effort to change a part of their game. If Oso wants to do that, he should have been in the gym starting yesterday.
I'm expecting exactly this. He's in the top 1% of BBIQ and it's clear that his work ethic is also in the top 1-10% based on the work he put in last summer. Why shouldn't we expect further strategic thinking and effort from someone who has already demonstrated both attributes?
You can get all the Botox and fillers you want , you'll still be ugly.
If learning to shoot were that simple, Steph Curry wouldn't be special.
I've never ever seen someone with a completely broken form fundamentally change their mechanics and shoot a good percentage. Dunns potential? I think extremely unlikely as well but at LEAST his form is a good foundation. Oso shoots like he should be a member of the Office
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Wed May 13, 2026 1:35 pm
by Shabazz
We can't even seem to turn Devin Booker into a good 3-point shooter...
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Wed May 13, 2026 1:46 pm
by O_Gardino
Shabazz wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 1:35 pm
We can't even seem to turn Devin Booker into a good 3-point shooter...
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Wed May 13, 2026 4:31 pm
by Mori Chu
specialsauce wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 1:32 pm
You can get all the Botox and fillers you want , you'll still be ugly.
Yes, but you have to admit that your mom did look better when she got her bum hole bleached. At least, better from her best angle.
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Wed May 13, 2026 4:33 pm
by Mori Chu
virtual9mm wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 9:16 am
I'm expecting exactly this. He's in the top 1% of BBIQ and it's clear that his work ethic is also in the top 1-10% based on the work he put in last summer. Why shouldn't we expect further strategic thinking and effort from someone who has already demonstrated both attributes?
Oso spent most of last summer bulking up, which was probably good so that he wouldn't be as undersized or get pushed around as much. That's probably the kind of improvement we can reasonably hope for from him. I could also see him practicing FTs until he was less of a liability there. But I doubt he'll ever be a good in-game shooter from distance. Rather than have him waste untold hours trying in vain to fix that, he can work on FTs and post moves and interior scoring outside of his floater. I think I'd be content with that from him rather than practicing 3-pointers.
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Wed May 13, 2026 6:47 pm
by virtual9mm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 4:33 pm
virtual9mm wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 9:16 am
I'm expecting exactly this. He's in the top 1% of BBIQ and it's clear that his work ethic is also in the top 1-10% based on the work he put in last summer. Why shouldn't we expect further strategic thinking and effort from someone who has already demonstrated both attributes?
Oso spent most of last summer bulking up, which was probably good so that he wouldn't be as undersized or get pushed around as much. That's probably the kind of improvement we can reasonably hope for from him. I could also see him practicing FTs until he was less of a liability there. But I doubt he'll ever be a good in-game shooter from distance. Rather than have him waste untold hours trying in vain to fix that, he can work on FTs and post moves and interior scoring outside of his floater. I think I'd be content with that from him rather than practicing 3-pointers.
FTs would be a good start
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Wed May 13, 2026 7:48 pm
by Superbone
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 12:40 am
If we still had a first rate training and medical staff instead of WebMD and ChatGPT, I would have more faith that we could rehabilitate Zion.
You're still living in Sarverland.
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Wed May 13, 2026 9:23 pm
by specialsauce
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 4:31 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 1:32 pm
You can get all the Botox and fillers you want , you'll still be ugly.
Yes, but you have to admit that your mom did look better when she got her bum hole bleached. At least, better from her best angle.
You are a true butthole bandit
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Wed May 13, 2026 11:47 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
virtual9mm wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 9:16 am
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 7:20 am
As Kevin Garnett once shouted, anything is possible. But I really doubt we will ever see Oso learn to fluidly shoot jump shots at a high percentage. He would have to totally reconstruct his shooting form from the ground up. Such a thing has happened before, but it would take months, years of concentrated work. Very few players can and do undergo such a monumental effort to change a part of their game. If Oso wants to do that, he should have been in the gym starting yesterday.
I'm expecting exactly this. He's in the top 1% of BBIQ and it's clear that his work ethic is also in the top 1-10% based on the work he put in last summer. Why shouldn't we expect further strategic thinking and effort from someone who has already demonstrated both attributes?
Every good person deserves someone who will believe in them to the degree that you believe in Oso.
Respectfully, I think your analysis of him is wildly optimistic and borderline insane.
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 2:22 am
by virtual9mm
Keep in mind I was wildly off on Ayton. But I think this case is different.
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 4:40 am
by Kryptonic
specialsauce wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 9:23 pm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 4:31 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 1:32 pm
You can get all the Botox and fillers you want , you'll still be ugly.
Yes, but you have to admit that your mom did look better when she got her bum hole bleached. At least, better from her best angle.
You are a true butthole bandit
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 7:02 am
by Mori Chu
specialsauce wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 9:23 pm
You are a true butthole bandit
I won't apologize for what I love!
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 1:47 pm
by JJ Slim
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/busin ... a-ds=sophi
Rocket Mortgage sues rival UWM for $100M
Detroit-based home lender Rocket Mortgage filed a lawsuit Thursday against local archrival United Wholesale Mortgage for alleged breach of contract.
The suit marks the latest escalation in a bitter personal and business feud between Rocket Companies Chairman Dan Gilbert and UWM CEO Mat Ishbia.
The filing from Rocket to the New York state Supreme Court seeks $100 million in damages from UWM for allegedly breaking an agreement with a mortgage servicing company called Mr. Cooper, which Rocket acquired in October 2025. Rocket said that UWM, which previously worked with the mortgage servicer, violated a contract with Mr. Cooper, doing business as Mr. Cooper Group Inc., by trying to siphon business away after its rival took over the company.
The complaint quotes past statements it said Ishbia made, including that he would "lose money just for fun” in efforts to raid Mr. Cooper's servicing portfolio and that he "f------ hates [Rocket] with all [his] heart.”
There's more detail about it after this but I wasn't sure if I could post more than a snippet here without getting in trouble and also it is behind a paywall.
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 4:00 pm
by specialsauce
Kryptonic wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 4:40 am
specialsauce wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 9:23 pm
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 4:31 pm
specialsauce wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2026 1:32 pm
You can get all the Botox and fillers you want , you'll still be ugly.
Yes, but you have to admit that your mom did look better when she got her bum hole bleached. At least, better from her best angle.
You are a true butthole bandit
That explains why Mori's a professor....
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 12:27 am
by Superbone
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 2:52 am
by virtual9mm
I've been thinking how to fix the roster and the more I think about it, the more I like the idea of a Green for Zion swap. Even if Zion does not play, I think it would be addition by subtraction -- cap space and the end of micro-ball.
I also like the idea of signing Sochan and using Dunn as a minor trade chip. I like Dunn, I really do. But if Sochan is available for peanuts as a FA...
Re: 2026 Offseason
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 12:36 pm
by Mori Chu
FWIW Zion makes $6m more than Jalen Green ($39m / yr vs $33m / yr) so we'd either take on salary or need to include other players to even it out. Both guys have 3-year deals so there's no savings or cost there.