Phx-Suns.Net

Split T wrote:I'm still not upset we don't have Bogdon. Chriss doesn't look like he's gonna pan out right now, but I think the risk at the time was worth it. I still wouldn't want to pay Bogdon the 9 or 10 million a year he's getting. Put it another way, if we used our cap space this summer to sign Bogdon to his current deal, would you be happy? I'd be pretty underwhelmed.

I'd be happy to have him over Chandler, Dudley, or Knight. A fool would say otherwise.

iLLmatic wrote:

Split T wrote:I'm still not upset we don't have Bogdon. Chriss doesn't look like he's gonna pan out right now, but I think the risk at the time was worth it. I still wouldn't want to pay Bogdon the 9 or 10 million a year he's getting. Put it another way, if we used our cap space this summer to sign Bogdon to his current deal, would you be happy? I'd be pretty underwhelmed.

I'd be happy to have him over Chandler, Dudley, or Knight. A fool would say otherwise.

Yeah, but that’s not the choice we had. If we could have included one of those bad contracts in the deal instead of Bogdan, we would have. But nobody wants those contracts.

Cap wrote:

iLLmatic wrote:

Split T wrote:I'm still not upset we don't have Bogdon. Chriss doesn't look like he's gonna pan out right now, but I think the risk at the time was worth it. I still wouldn't want to pay Bogdon the 9 or 10 million a year he's getting. Put it another way, if we used our cap space this summer to sign Bogdon to his current deal, would you be happy? I'd be pretty underwhelmed.

I'd be happy to have him over Chandler, Dudley, or Knight. A fool would say otherwise.

Yeah, but that’s not the choice we had. If we could have included one of those bad contracts in the deal instead of Bogdan, we would have. But nobody wants those contracts.

Exactly. I just don't get the Bogdon love. He's a fine player, he might turn into something decent, but he's overpaid right now and plays the same position as our best player.

I feel bad for the bulls, they seem to be the least competent tankers and have moved ahead of New York. Look like they're gonna be picking 9th.

Split T wrote:

Cap wrote:

iLLmatic wrote:

Split T wrote:I'm still not upset we don't have Bogdon. Chriss doesn't look like he's gonna pan out right now, but I think the risk at the time was worth it. I still wouldn't want to pay Bogdon the 9 or 10 million a year he's getting. Put it another way, if we used our cap space this summer to sign Bogdon to his current deal, would you be happy? I'd be pretty underwhelmed.

I'd be happy to have him over Chandler, Dudley, or Knight. A fool would say otherwise.

Yeah, but that’s not the choice we had. If we could have included one of those bad contracts in the deal instead of Bogdan, we would have. But nobody wants those contracts.

Exactly. I just don't get the Bogdon love. He's a fine player, he might turn into something decent, but he's overpaid right now and plays the same position as our best player.

We suck, so it's kind of annoying to see a player we traded play for another team and not suck. But we wouldn’t be any better off with him on our roster.

I still will never understand why we traded Bogdon plus other assets for a rookie project PF when we had just literally taken a rookie project PF four picks prior. Who thought that was going to work out? Seriously, what was the thinking there?

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I still will never understand why we traded Bogdon plus other assets for a rookie project PF when we had just literally taken a rookie project PF four picks prior. Who thought that was going to work out? Seriously, what was the thinking there?

Buying a second lottery ticket by trading away 3 others.

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I still will never understand why we traded Bogdon plus other assets for a rookie project PF when we had just literally taken a rookie project PF four picks prior. Who thought that was going to work out? Seriously, what was the thinking there?

Maybe a problem caused by an alleged bicephally. Probably one faction wanted Bender and another one wanted Chriss. It's been rumored Watson was pro Chriss but we've never had any proof other than his obvious bias towards Chriss.

Anyway, we should have kept Bogds, and for some time, I felt alone on this one. Some people acted like he was nothing, but he was a very prominent young player in Europe. I get his contract is giving people pause but the money is not crazy at all by new standards and we had nothing to lose at the time, since we were in the middle of our own rebuilding. Today we'd already have on the team a poor man's version of what Doncic could become if his projections hold.

Ring_Wanted wrote:

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I still will never understand why we traded Bogdon plus other assets for a rookie project PF when we had just literally taken a rookie project PF four picks prior. Who thought that was going to work out? Seriously, what was the thinking there?

Maybe a problem caused by an alleged bicephally. Probably one faction wanted Bender and another one wanted Chriss. It's been rumored Watson was pro Chriss but we've never had any proof other than his obvious bias towards Chriss.

Anyway, we should have kept Bogds, and for some time, I felt alone on this one. Some people acted like he was nothing, but he was a very prominent young player in Europe. I get his contract is giving people pause but the money is not crazy at all by new standards and we had nothing to lose at the time, since we were in the middle of our own rebuilding. Today we'd already have on the team a poor man's version of what Doncic could become if his projections hold.

The one time the Suns FO *doesn't* keep some player's brother is the time he turns out to be decent.

I don't think bojan and Bogdon are brothers

Split T wrote:I don't think bojan and Bogdon are brothers

They aren't. Not even from the same country.

Ring_Wanted wrote:

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I still will never understand why we traded Bogdon plus other assets for a rookie project PF when we had just literally taken a rookie project PF four picks prior. Who thought that was going to work out? Seriously, what was the thinking there?

Maybe a problem caused by an alleged bicephally. Probably one faction wanted Bender and another one wanted Chriss. It's been rumored Watson was pro Chriss but we've never had any proof other than his obvious bias towards Chriss.

Anyway, we should have kept Bogds, and for some time, I felt alone on this one. Some people acted like he was nothing, but he was a very prominent young player in Europe. I get his contract is giving people pause but the money is not crazy at all by new standards and we had nothing to lose at the time, since we were in the middle of our own rebuilding. Today we'd already have on the team a poor man's version of what Doncic could become if his projections hold.

There is no question in hindsight that we would have been better off only taking Bender and keeping Bogdan. Yet another McD mistake. On the other hand, it was applauded as a good gamble at the time. Boy would Bogdan be a nice luxury coming in off the bench for Booker.

Kings beat the warriors tonight. Which is nice, but warriors are vulnerable right now and we've got a couple games coming up against them, including tomorrow. Normally it'd be a great tanking matchup where we can play hard and not worry about winning. Unfortunately, Curry, Klay, and Durant are all out. Hopefully Booker is out too.

Superbone wrote:There is no question in hindsight that we would have been better off only taking Bender and keeping Bogdan. Yet another McD mistake. On the other hand, it was applauded as a good gamble at the time. Boy would Bogdan be a nice luxury coming in off the bench for Booker.

Mmmh can't remembre anyone on here in favor of the move, but this might be just bias since I didn't like the trade...

I didn't hate the trade for the #8 pick. But I wanted us to use it to draft Sabonis. When we picked Chriss, I wasn't as happy.

Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I didn't hate the trade for the #8 pick. But I wanted us to use it to draft Sabonis. When we picked Chriss, I wasn't as happy.

I wanted Sabonis.

Memphis down just 2 to New Jersey late in the third.

Good news if we want Milwaukee's pick - Indiana and Philadelphia won tonight and Milwaukee is losing in the closing seconds to Cleveland.

Memphis and Brooklyn are playing a close one in Brooklyn with the Nets leading by 1 with 6:09 remaining.

Teams in the running for the worst record -

Suns - 19-52
Grizzlies - 19-51
Hawks - 20-50
Magic - 21-49
Mavericks - 22-48

I think Dallas is probably out of it because I doubt both the Grizzlies and Suns win 3 games this season.

The Bobster wrote:Good news if we want Milwaukee's pick - Indiana and Philadelphia won tonight and Milwaukee is losing in the closing seconds to Cleveland.

Memphis and Brooklyn are playing a close one in Brooklyn with the Nets leading by 1 with 6:09 remaining.

But after this, Milwaukee’s pick land at 18th, so they keep it, right?