2025 Suns Offeason News

[TOO]

I believe that same woman was arrested breaking into another woman's house who was seeing Zion after she did. Just lol all around. Stay away from those money grubbing insta hoes guys, they are bad for ya.

[Kryptonic]

I believe that same woman was arrested breaking into another woman's house who was seeing Zion after she did. Just lol all around. Stay away from those money grubbing insta hoes guys, they are bad for ya.

But but…. BOOBS

[TOO]

I believe that same woman was arrested breaking into another woman's house who was seeing Zion after she did. Just lol all around. Stay away from those money grubbing insta hoes guys, they are bad for ya.

But but…. BOOBS

Fun fact, even non Internet women have boobs.

[Mori Chu]

I'm a big innocent-until-proven-guilty guy, so I don't want to make assumptions about what Zion did or didn't do until it has been investigated. I hope he did not do anything inappropriate. But it's bad news for an already troubled NBA star who just cannot seem to stay on the court and may be near the end of his rope.

Here's a skeet form of the reddit link in my prior post:

[Superbone]

I believe that same woman was arrested breaking into another woman's house who was seeing Zion after she did. Just lol all around. Stay away from those money grubbing insta hoes guys, they are bad for ya.

But but…. BOOBS

Fun fact, even non Internet women have boobs.

That's what I hear.

[Superbone]

"That is when I learned basketball is business, they didn't want to win" - Shannon Brown shares painful memory from his time with the Phoenix Suns
Brown admitted his Suns tenure messed him up mentally, with the team badly mismanaged.

https://www.basketballnetwork.net/off-t ... oenix-suns

[Mori Chu]

Shannon Brown ...

[Mori Chu]

Bright Side's DarthVoita gives his plan for how to fix the Suns this offseason. Highlights:

- keep Book and KD
- buy out and stretch Beal
- trade Royce O'Neale for Lonzo Ball
- sign Jonathan Kuminga to a RFA contract
- draft a center (Ryan Kalkbrenner of Creighton) at #29 this summer
- FA targets: Precious Achiuwa, Alec Burks, Guerschon Yabusele, Sandro Mamukelashvili

Thoughts?

[ShelC]

Those are the kinds of moves we made in the late 90s/early 00s and 2010s. Band-aid type of moves that leave you in purgatory as a 35-45 win team that's not bad enough to lose and not good enough to win.

[JJ Slim]

Those are the kinds of moves we made in the late 90s/early 00s and 2010s. Band-aid type of moves that leave you in purgatory as a 35-45 win team that's not bad enough to lose and not good enough to win.

I actually like it. Yes it is a band-aid but considering what we have to work with at least it could be entertaining and have something to build on. Yes it would take patience which I know a lot of us don't have. I would only make one change to it and that would be to keep Bol. I think with the right coach he could develop more. Maybe...

I will say that one thing it is lacking though is obtaining any additional draft picks which we desperately need.

Also It was very well thought out and I would hope that our GM would be considering our situation in much the same step by step way even if the players and trades are different.

[Mori Chu]

I'm the first guy to support tearing this team down and doing a full rebuild. But we are in a bit of a unique situation in that we don't own any of our own picks until 2032. This means that the standard strategy of "tank and suck and you'll get good lottery picks so you can rebuild in a few years" won't work as well for us. In fact, it will make zero difference if we go 18-64 or 64-18 in terms of what draft pick positions we get, since our picks are so heavily leveraged and swapped and outright gone.

So if we aren't going to re-acquire any of our own draft picks, then I would say that it is fine for them to try to be good and competitive, even if they most likely cannot become a contender. Going 41-41 won't hurt us, it'll only hurt the other teams who already have our draft picks for the next six years.

I want to be clear: Being mediocre is NOT what I want or recommend for the Suns to do. I want them to trade KD for youngs and picks, especially if we can get our own picks back from Houston. I even support a Booker trade (if he wanted it) but realize that won't happen. My point is just that tanking WITHOUT getting our own picks back yields no benefit and therefore there's no point in doing that. We don't have to suffer being the worst team in the West for zero reward.

[virtual9mm]

I'm the first guy to support tearing this team down and doing a full rebuild. But we are in a bit of a unique situation in that we don't own any of our own picks until 2032. This means that the standard strategy of "tank and suck and you'll get good lottery picks so you can rebuild in a few years" won't work as well for us. In fact, it will make zero difference if we go 18-64 or 64-18 in terms of what draft pick positions we get, since our picks are so heavily leveraged and swapped and outright gone.

So if we aren't going to re-acquire any of our own draft picks, then I would say that it is fine for them to try to be good and competitive, even if they most likely cannot become a contender. Going 41-41 won't hurt us, it'll only hurt the other teams who already have our draft picks for the next six years.

I want to be clear: Being mediocre is NOT what I want or recommend for the Suns to do. I want them to trade KD for youngs and picks, especially if we can get our own picks back from Houston. I even support a Booker trade (if he wanted it) but realize that won't happen. My point is just that tanking WITHOUT getting our own picks back yields no benefit and therefore there's no point in doing that. We don't have to suffer being the worst team in the West for zero reward.

That in itself is leverage. Tell Houston that we're willing to rebuild ONLY if they sweeten the pot somehow.

[specialsauce]

Bright Side's DarthVoita gives his plan for how to fix the Suns this offseason. Highlights:

- keep Book and KD
- buy out and stretch Beal
- trade Royce O'Neale for Lonzo Ball
- sign Jonathan Kuminga to a RFA contract
- draft a center (Ryan Kalkbrenner of Creighton) at #29 this summer
- FA targets: Precious Achiuwa, Alec Burks, Guerschon Yabusele, Sandro Mamukelashvili

Thoughts?

Lost me at keep KD and Book

[virtual9mm]

Agree. Book can stay but KD has to go.

[Kryptonic]

It’s time for a new era of suns basketball and to wipe the slate clean with a new roster and coach. Our best asset is a peaked sg that’s proven he can’t get us over the hump or wants to be a leader. The big two have already went through 3 coaches…. That should tell us all we need to know. Ishbia talked about identity…. As long as those two are on the team, we identify as a rudderless ship.

[Carno]

No to trading Booker. KD doesn't have to go (but probably will).

[JeremyG]

It’s time for a new era of suns basketball and to wipe the slate clean with a new roster and coach. Our best asset is a peaked sg that’s proven he can’t get us over the hump or wants to be a leader. The big two have already went through 3 coaches…. That should tell us all we need to know. Ishbia talked about identity…. As long as those two are on the team, we identify as a rudderless ship.

This man gets it.

[Carno]

Yes, let's rebuild in hopes we can get 2 stars like.... Book and KD.

[Split T]

I don’t think the star loaded teams are the way to do it anymore. The talent level across the board is so high that everyone has high level talent. You need to build a team that is deep(and by that I mostly mean 3-7), the suns rosters with Book/KD fell off a cliff talent wise. You also need an identity and to stick with it.

OKC has SGA who is a top talent, but that team is elite because they’ve got 10 guys who could start. They also all play defense and harass the hell out of the other team.

Indy has a really solid top 7 across the board. They also play together and push the issue constantly on offense. They run like crazy and don’t turn it over.

Neither of these teams are built on the backs of multiple stars.

[Superbone]

I don’t think the star loaded teams are the way to do it anymore. The talent level across the board is so high that everyone has high level talent. You need to build a team that is deep(and by that I mostly mean 3-7), the suns rosters with Book/KD fell off a cliff talent wise. You also need an identity and to stick with it.

OKC has SGA who is a top talent, but that team is elite because they’ve got 10 guys who could start. They also all play defense and harass the hell out of the other team.

Indy has a really solid top 7 across the board. They also play together and push the issue constantly on offense. They run like crazy and don’t turn it over.

Neither of these teams are built on the backs of multiple stars.

Yep, the superstar teams are out of vogue. One is fine but you need a team of tough defensive minded players as well as some size and athleticism. Guys who play team ball and for each other. Not to get their own. (Durant...cough...)