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Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:22 pm
by djy2j
Relax. Mike Scott will be a top 30 player in Europe next year. That is why we paid for him. Brilliance!

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:23 pm
by Indy
Split T wrote:
Indy wrote:
carey wrote:We needed to reach the salary floor. Scott is owed $3.3M - He's shooting 29% from the field and 15% from 3 this year. I think we found someone worse than Knight.
We have to spend the money anyway. Is this just us saying that we didn't want to pay our other players more? I am not sure why we spent money on this.


Because Scott has already been paid probably 2 million of his salary this year. We only pay him 1.3 million, but he still counts for 3.3 million against the cap. This saved sarver 2 million dollars. Had nothing to do with his basketball ability.
Ah, didn't realize you could do that.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:28 pm
by carey
Indy wrote:

Ah, didn't realize you could do that.
The salary is calculated on the last day of the season for floor/tax purposes. So while they sent out Tucker's salary they took back Sullinger and Scott's. I am not sure either wears a Suns uniform ever.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:31 pm
by EDC
Well that was disappointing.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:54 pm
by Gladiator
Gladiator wrote:I've gone with very active. I don't know who will get moved, but my theory is there will be a lot of movement in the NBA generally and McD will get an itchy trigger finger wanting to get involved.
Oh boy was I wrong. What an underwhelming outcome for the Suns

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:12 pm
by England Sun
The only silver lining from all of that is hopefully more minutes for the younger players and more losses.
The way the Suns have been in recent times though well probably end up picking 5th in the draft and making a mess of any other trades in summer.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:14 pm
by Shabazz
"We feel like we got the best player in the trade, coming or going."
- Ryan McDonough, Feb 2015 on acquiring Brandon Knight and sending out Goran Dragic and Isaiah Thomas

"(crickets)"
- Ryan McDonough, Feb 2017 after being unable to unload Knight for a second round pick and an expiring contract

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:25 pm
by ShelC
That quote looks especially stupid with IT3 playing like he is.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:46 pm
by Split T
Biggest things I want to see for the rest of the season:

Focus on development
Consistent minutes for Chriss(25 a game minimum)
Consistent minutes for Len(25 a game)
Warren to find some consistency in his play
Knight to have some success
Bender to get healthy and get some minutes
Booker and Bledsoe to continue their 2017 play
Ulis to be a part of the rotation consistently
Lots of wins for the Lakers, Magic, and 76ers

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:47 pm
by specialsauce
Split T wrote:Biggest things I want to see for the rest of the season:

Focus on development
Consistent minutes for Chriss(25 a game minimum)
Consistent minutes for Len(25 a game)
Warren to find some consistency in his play
Knight to have some success
Bender to get healthy and get some minutes
Booker and Bledsoe to continue their 2017 play
Ulis to be a part of the rotation consistently
Lots of wins for the Lakers, Magic, and 76ers
Agreed on all counts.
Lets add lots of wins for the Nets too (asking too much?)

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:49 pm
by Split T
ya, I think they're at 9 wins. We have 18. They ain't catching us

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:52 pm
by The Bobster
It's about what you can expect for a couple months of Tucker. Nobody's going to be offering a first-rounder for him.

I just don't want to see Chandler player 30-35 minutes a night, and holding on to Knight might be the best idea - either he will help them lose a lot more games or he'll build his value back up somewhat.

From this point on I want to see Warren, Ulis, Chriss, Len, Williams and Bender out there as much as possible so we can evaluate whether they're in the long-term plans and to develop them as much as we can.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:17 pm
by Superbone
Gladiator wrote:
Gladiator wrote:I've gone with very active. I don't know who will get moved, but my theory is there will be a lot of movement in the NBA generally and McD will get an itchy trigger finger wanting to get involved.
Oh boy was I wrong. What an underwhelming outcome for the Suns
I nailed it with the 1 player moved. I don't count that other guy coming for cash who I can't even remember his name or who he is.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:03 pm
by Mori Chu
I nailed it with the 1 player moved. I don't count that other guy coming for cash who I can't even remember his name or who he is.
I didn't read the poll carefully; I was voting for "2 or more trades." I didn't notice it said "2 or more players moved." That could have come true with just one trade, actually.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:34 pm
by Shabazz
https://twitter.com/DougHaller/status/834948436323516417 Why the F-ing F are we so obsessed with Ronnie Price? If the front office loves him so much as a veteran voice, add him to the coaching staff. Any second this guy plays over Ulis is a wasted second.

If we have an open roster spot, we should be using it to cycle in and out young d-league players at the 3 (like Troy Williams) to see if we can find some pieces to add to our core.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:18 pm
by carey
Jones Jr. is a 3. I expect to see minutes given to Warren and Jones Jr. until Bender is back.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:29 pm
by JCSunsfan
Shabazz wrote:https://twitter.com/DougHaller/status/834948436323516417 Why the F-ing F are we so obsessed with Ronnie Price? If the front office loves him so much as a veteran voice, add him to the coaching staff. Any second this guy plays over Ulis is a wasted second.

If we have an open roster spot, we should be using it to cycle in and out young d-league players at the 3 (like Troy Williams) to see if we can find some pieces to add to our core.
The Suns wanted him as an assistant coach this year but he wanted to play. When it was clear no one was going to sign him, the Suns brought him back primarily to coach. But since they are below the salary floor they can pay him as a player with money they were going to have to spend anyway. So Sarver gets an assistant coach for free.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:31 pm
by JCSunsfan
carey wrote:Jones Jr. is a 3. I expect to see minutes given to Warren and Jones Jr. until Bender is back.
I am kind of looking forward to this.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:39 pm
by Split T
JCSunsfan wrote:
Shabazz wrote:https://twitter.com/DougHaller/status/834948436323516417 Why the F-ing F are we so obsessed with Ronnie Price? If the front office loves him so much as a veteran voice, add him to the coaching staff. Any second this guy plays over Ulis is a wasted second.

If we have an open roster spot, we should be using it to cycle in and out young d-league players at the 3 (like Troy Williams) to see if we can find some pieces to add to our core.
The Suns wanted him as an assistant coach this year but he wanted to play. When it was clear no one was going to sign him, the Suns brought him back primarily to coach. But since they are below the salary floor they can pay him as a player with money they were going to have to spend anyway. So Sarver gets an assistant coach for free.
Ya, we haven't seen him get any minutes over Ulis yet, so let's not get too worried. Even with price, if we waive Scott and sullinger, we'll still have two roster spots to bring in some guys.

Re: Suns Trading Deadline Speculation

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:58 pm
by carey
Roster

Bledsoe-T.U.-Price
Booker-Knight-Barbosa
Warren-Jones Jr.
Chriss-Bender-Dudley
Chandler-Len-B.S.

We have one spot with Price back and could add another SF I suppose or another combo guard. Possibly bring back Jenkins or take a flyer on someone else. Troy Williams? Askia Booker from the NAZ? A Booker-Booker rotation at SG?