TTron wrote:
Green: Could he take another step this year and become a great player.
Does he need to, though? Sure, some would like to see his decision-making improve and better awareness on the defensive end, but in general, I'm fine with Green the way he is and I don't think the Suns need him to significantly improve. If they got the same Green this season that they got last season, I think that would be great. Unfortunately, this is all probably moot as Green's days in a Suns uniform are likely numbered.
If he does well it will most likely have to be at small forward which he could not do well enough last year to put P.J. on the bench.
P.J. remaining a starter was of no shortcoming on Green's part. P.J. became the permanent starting small forward because the Suns needed what he provided. Plus, Green's skillset was conducive to coming off the bench.
Re: Suns News: September
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:51 pm
by TOO
I agree on Green probably being gone after the season. He will be priced out of what I'd be willing to pay him if he's as productive this year as he was last.
Re: Suns News: September
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:58 pm
by INFORMER
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:He will be priced out of what I'd be willing to pay him if he's as productive this year as he was last.
I don't think that will be the case. I think he'll sign a reasonable deal somewhere.
Re: Suns News: September
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:07 pm
by carey
INFORMER wrote: P.J. remaining a starter was of no shortcoming on Green's part. P.J. became the permanent starting small forward because the Suns needed what he provided. Plus, Green's skillset was conducive to coming off the bench.
Only Green played pretty poorly off the bench. His games as starting 2 guard were much better than the games he was 6th man.
Re: Suns News: September
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 3:35 pm
by Wally_West
carey wrote:
INFORMER wrote: P.J. remaining a starter was of no shortcoming on Green's part. P.J. became the permanent starting small forward because the Suns needed what he provided. Plus, Green's skillset was conducive to coming off the bench.
Only Green played pretty poorly off the bench. His games as starting 2 guard were much better than the games he was 6th man.
I always felt that he never had proper time to develop chemistry coming off the bench and playing with Dragic and Bledsoe together too. He was always had to step up because either Dragic or Bledsoe couldn't play due to injuries or they were playing while one was recovering from injuries. Near the end of the season he started playing much better off the bench.
Re: Suns News: September
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:34 pm
by TTron
I tend to agree with informer. If we got the same from green this coming season as we got last year i'll be very happy.
Re: Suns News: September
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:09 pm
by Superbone
A nice interview and highlights with Zoran Dragic:
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Re: Suns News: September
Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:13 pm
by Cap
Talk about a quick move. It looks like he's laying it in during the national anthem.
It's time for Valley fans to escape Jerry Colangelo nostalgia
Paola Boivin, azcentral sports columnist 2:54 p.m. MST September 28, 2014
In the aftermath of the Jerry Colangelo ownership era, Ken Kendrick and Robert Sarver didn't stand a chance.
Not for immediate acceptance, anyway. Colangelo changed the Valley's sports landscape and did it with ease and an everyman trait. Kendrick, the Diamondbacks' managing general partner, and Sarver, the Suns' majority owner, were doomed from the beginning.
Both have made mistakes but both have grown, too. Ten years have passed. It's time for fans to move on.
Phoenix Suns owner Robert Sarver applies lessons learned over 10 years
Paul Coro, azcentral sports 4:38 p.m. MST September 27, 2014
Ten years ago, the Suns were undergoing the second ownership change in franchise history when Jerry Colangelo weighed two leading bidders aiming to succeed him as the franchise's managing partner.
Colangelo knew more about Jeff Moorad, a baseball agent who had represented Luis Gonzalez and would later become a minority partner in replacing Colangelo's Diamondbacks ownership. Colangelo knew the other, banking and real estate magnate Robert Sarver, about as well as Sarver knew the NBA at the time — but Sarver's group bid had weight. With a then-record $401 million bid that later grew by a few million for success escalators, Sarver became the Suns' managing partner with nobody knowing what to expect.
A decade has changed Sarver's NBA expertise — about as much as how time has changed the three little boys in a 2005 Steve Nash MVP photo outside Sarver's office. The boys now are teenagers who grew up with the franchise, just as their father grew into it.
Phoenix Suns' system pieces need fitting as camp begins
Paul Coro, azcentral sports 6:53 p.m. MST September 28, 2014
They are three rookies, one 2014 playoff participant and one 30-year-old.
They are seven guards, two sets of brothers and 10 returnees.
They are this season's Suns, a team that gathers today officially for the first time at US Airways Center with similar youth to last year but more familiarity for what is coming at Flagstaff training camp this week.
Between two-a-day conditioning at 7,000-foot elevation and a new system, the play at last season's training camp did not tell coach Jeff Hornacek that he had a 48-34 team on his hands.
"We had to go over and over things last year because it was all new," Hornacek said. "This year, we'll get into things quicker and be able to play more. We should be able to cover the little things. We did a great job of scoring last season, but now it's about the little things."
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Re: Suns News: September
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:22 am
by carey
https://twitter.com/DaveKingNBA/status/516592019826020352
Yep, as I said earlier, like it or not this is the team we will have going forward unless we're involved in some kind of trade.
Re: Suns News: September
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:26 am
by Indy
carey wrote:https://twitter.com/DaveKingNBA/status/516592019826020352
Yep, as I said earlier, like it or not this is the team we will have going forward unless we're involved in some kind of trade.
With 15 guys on our roster, I have a hard time believing that won't happen.
Re: Suns News: September
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:39 am
by carey
Indy wrote:With 15 guys on our roster, I have a hard time believing that won't happen.
I have a feeling Goodwin & Ennis might be on the way out along with a draft pick or two at some point during the season. Possibly Tucker as well if Zoran's defense is as good as advertised.
Coro: Zoran Dragic brings tough defense
Paul Coro, azcentral sports 9:14 p.m. MST September 29, 2014
Goran Dragic is looking forward to Suns basketball life with his younger brother but is not eager for practices with him.
He could not tell you whether Zoran is capable of beating him in one-on-one any longer because he avoids playing him.
"I don't want to play against him because now he's a little bit of a dirty player," Goran said. "He gives you elbows."
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Re: Suns News: September
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:33 am
by Shabazz
Smart way to structure the Morris contracts. A little more flexibility next summer, then a jump when the cap is expected to go up:
https://twitter.com/EricPincus/status/516797220113219584
https://twitter.com/EricPincus/status/516797418319253505
Also:
https://twitter.com/EricPincus/status/516796985479680000
Re: Suns News: September
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 3:21 am
by SwingMan
Shabazz wrote:Smart way to structure the Morris contracts. A little more flexibility next summer, then a jump when the cap is expected to go up:
Ah-ha - so that's why it was initially reported as a $3.5 million deal over 2 years, then bumped up to $4 million:
Zoran's buyout was $1 million - the Suns could only contribute $600K, so they bumped it up with a signing bonus so Zoran could cover the tag end of the buyout.
Know and use every advantage at your disposal.....