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Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Dec 08, 2025 7:02 pmWeakest flagrant foul. Rudy such a pussy. Played it up when he could’ve gotten an and 1 easily.
Not to mention a punk ass bitch. That retaliation flagrant 2 was ridiculous. Could have broken a rib plus Williams was in the air. I think there should be additional penalties post game.
I was worried Brooks was going to cost us the game when he jacked a couple at the end. Luckily he didn't shoot again.
Maybe we can get in the middle of the Golden State Milwaukee talks?Split T wrote: ↑Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:29 pmI think you just stand pat for the most part though. Just play a little small or cut back on some minutes. We haven’t been fully healthy yet this year, so who knows if we ever even have all our guards healthy for an extended stretch. Maybe just see what a Royce/Richards trade can get you and just be happy with a playoff appearance. Next summer you can reevaluate with better options. I’m not saying i recommend it, but we would have access to trading 2 1st round picks in the summer.
I was really skeptical of the Ott hire due to the MSU connections. But clearly he is one of the best coaches in the league this year. It is also noteworthy that Cleveland has taken a big step back this season; I wonder if part of it is due to the loss of Ott as a top assistant?
It's funny because he doesn't put up the gaudy numbers of another recent former #1 pick we had at center but he's more impactful. Plays bigger, dunks the ball, knows how to tip rebounds and keep them alive even if he's not grabbing them, run the floor hard. His impact goes beyond the boxscore when you watch the games.Mori Chu wrote: ↑Mon Dec 08, 2025 8:12 pmMark Williams was awesome tonight with 22 points on 7-9 shooting along with 7 rebounds. Gillespie was the man as usual with 19, 6, and 4. Lots of other guys contributed, including Oso who gave us 10 points on 5-6 shooting and 5 boards. Even guys like Goodwin (9) and BOOYEA! (5) chipped in. Really impressive win for such a short-handed team.
I disagree. I think the Suns had a good interview process in place and went through a gauntlet of candidates and Ott was just the best man for the job and he was also Booker's top choice after talking to the top candidates. I think the MSU ties were just happenstance but the public made a big deal of it from afar.
Exactly. I have none of the frustrations with Williams that I had with our first ever #1 overall pick.ShelC wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:08 amIt's funny because he doesn't put up the gaudy numbers of another recent former #1 pick we had at center but he's more impactful. Plays bigger, dunks the ball, knows how to tip rebounds and keep them alive even if he's not grabbing them, run the floor hard. His impact goes beyond the boxscore when you watch the games.Mori Chu wrote: ↑Mon Dec 08, 2025 8:12 pmMark Williams was awesome tonight with 22 points on 7-9 shooting along with 7 rebounds. Gillespie was the man as usual with 19, 6, and 4. Lots of other guys contributed, including Oso who gave us 10 points on 5-6 shooting and 5 boards. Even guys like Goodwin (9) and BOOYEA! (5) chipped in. Really impressive win for such a short-handed team.
And for as good as Williams has been I don't think he has peaked and will likely get even better. And then we have Maluach waiting in the wings even though some have gotten frustrated in his slow progress.Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:09 amExactly. I have none of the frustrations with Williams that I had with our first ever #1 overall pick.ShelC wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:08 amIt's funny because he doesn't put up the gaudy numbers of another recent former #1 pick we had at center but he's more impactful. Plays bigger, dunks the ball, knows how to tip rebounds and keep them alive even if he's not grabbing them, run the floor hard. His impact goes beyond the boxscore when you watch the games.Mori Chu wrote: ↑Mon Dec 08, 2025 8:12 pmMark Williams was awesome tonight with 22 points on 7-9 shooting along with 7 rebounds. Gillespie was the man as usual with 19, 6, and 4. Lots of other guys contributed, including Oso who gave us 10 points on 5-6 shooting and 5 boards. Even guys like Goodwin (9) and BOOYEA! (5) chipped in. Really impressive win for such a short-handed team.
Plus, Williams is four years younger than our former #1 pick. I often forget how young he is due to his size and maturity.JJ Slim wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:16 amAnd for as good as Williams has been I don't think he has peaked and will likely get even better. And then we have Maluach waiting in the wings even though some have gotten frustrated in his slow progress.Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 10:09 amExactly. I have none of the frustrations with Williams that I had with our first ever #1 overall pick.ShelC wrote: ↑Tue Dec 09, 2025 9:08 amIt's funny because he doesn't put up the gaudy numbers of another recent former #1 pick we had at center but he's more impactful. Plays bigger, dunks the ball, knows how to tip rebounds and keep them alive even if he's not grabbing them, run the floor hard. His impact goes beyond the boxscore when you watch the games.Mori Chu wrote: ↑Mon Dec 08, 2025 8:12 pmMark Williams was awesome tonight with 22 points on 7-9 shooting along with 7 rebounds. Gillespie was the man as usual with 19, 6, and 4. Lots of other guys contributed, including Oso who gave us 10 points on 5-6 shooting and 5 boards. Even guys like Goodwin (9) and BOOYEA! (5) chipped in. Really impressive win for such a short-handed team.
Ott made a nice move to get Brooks off the floor for a few minutes toward the end of the game, when he was clearly tired and kept coming up way short on questionable midrange shots. I've been pretty impressed with Ott as a game manager overall. Adjustments seem to happen quickly, he's good at using timeouts to break up opposing teams' flow, and substitutions have mostly made sense, especially since the first half-dozen games or so. This is generally a pretty smart group of players anyways, and having a coach pushing the right buttons amplifies that nicely.
