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Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:26 am
by Indy
Superbone wrote:I don't understand why if there was a settlement that she can talk about it now? Was there a statute of limitations? Why not talk about it before? Why has it resurfaced now? Anybody know? Do I ask a lot of questions? Was the last one rhetorical?
He can sue her for talking now. But he won't. She said she was just tired of feeling like he paid her off to not talk about molesting her. 17 year old kids make bad choices.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:59 am
by Superbone
Indy wrote:Superbone wrote:I don't understand why if there was a settlement that she can talk about it now? Was there a statute of limitations? Why not talk about it before? Why has it resurfaced now? Anybody know? Do I ask a lot of questions? Was the last one rhetorical?
He can sue her for talking now. But he won't. She said she was just tired of feeling like he paid her off to not talk about molesting her. 17 year old kids make bad choices.
OK, thanks.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:23 am
by Nodack
Mori Chu wrote:I think once Markieff is shipped out, it'll be like a breath of fresh air. We may not improve our winning percentage, but we'll be more pleasant to watch.
I agree. He is like a dark cloud hanging over the team. The sooner he is gone the better. I think it would help our %. His head isn't in the game and he hates the team. Reminds me of the Penny days a little.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:12 am
by JCSunsfan
Indy wrote:Superbone wrote:I don't understand why if there was a settlement that she can talk about it now? Was there a statute of limitations? Why not talk about it before? Why has it resurfaced now? Anybody know? Do I ask a lot of questions? Was the last one rhetorical?
He can sue her for talking now. But he won't. She said she was just tired of feeling like he paid her off to not talk about molesting her. 17 year old kids make bad choices.
17 year old kids don't make legal choices, their parents do.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:15 am
by Sunsfan4life
Is there anyway a package of Bledsoe,Kieff,Archie and a top 5 protected 1st rounder gets the Kings attention for "Boogie". If I recall, they coveted Eric last off-season.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:19 am
by Sunsfan4life
Knight
Booker
Warren
Cousins
Chandler
Bench:
Leur
Len
Weems
P.J.
Price
Teletovic
Heats 1st rd picks
Cavs 1st rd Pick
Its a deal that would change the whole perspective of the franchise. Boogie is a coach killer, yes, but I think its a role of the dice you try if your Phoenix and the Kings seem to be hell bent on not "tanking", ala morgaging the future to chase Wes Matthews and Monta Ellis, and probabaly would want multiple pieces that can help them now as well as a pick.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:32 am
by JCSunsfan
Demarcus Cousins: 24 ppg (.403 from 2, .421 from 3 with an efg% of .451), 11 rebs, 1.2 blocks, 2.2 assts.
Not as effecient offensively as I would like. As a pf/c Cousins has NEVER averaged over 50% from the 2. Markieff is a more effecient offensive player than Cousins. Cousins is such a rebounder though. Cousins would be a great player to have, but because of his immaturity and offensive inefficiency, I would not trade the farm for him, certainly not Bledsoe as part of a package.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:36 am
by Ring_Wanted
Cousins and Bledsoe are friends and honestly that's the only angle that can attract Boogie to the Suns. If a trade were to happen, I guess it would be Knight, who also fits Karl better (not that Karl would keep his job if things got so bad that Cousins wants out). I'd make everything else but Booker available.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:10 pm
by Sunsfan4life
Ring_Wanted wrote:Cousins and Bledsoe are friends and honestly that's the only angle that can attract Boogie to the Suns. If a trade were to happen, I guess it would be Knight, who also fits Karl better (not that Karl would keep his job if things got so bad that Cousins wants out). I'd make everything else but Booker available.
Cousins is under contract for a while still, right? So we wouldn't have to be attractive to him. But honestly, Knight played the year after he did, so I'm sure they know each other. I doubt Cousins cares where he is traded, he didn't have a list this summer, but you could be in worse places and cities then Phoenix. I think he would relish the chance of staying in the same division as the Kings too.
Now after a year of things not going his way...That's a different story. He would need to be held accountable and have a more positive attitude and honestly, I think you need to have a coach who demanded a little more discipline and respect then Hornecek does.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:13 pm
by Sunsfan4life
I just would rather keep Knight then Bledsoe. Bledsoe is having the better stastical year, but I just see in Knight more qualities in a point guard and decision maker then Eric. Bedsoe had a fantastic night last night, but again with the 8 turns and many of which were of lazy pass sloppy dribbling in traffic variety.
Knights shooting too.....
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:02 pm
by ShelC
Who has Cousins gotten fired?
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:20 pm
by Sunsfan4life
Paul "Then everyone will say what a great series it was" Westphal.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:23 pm
by The Bobster
Hey, he got my favorite player fired as his coach so you can guess where I stand on Cousins.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:23 pm
by carey
Sunsfan4life wrote:I just would rather keep Knight then Bledsoe. Bledsoe is having the better stastical year, but I just see in Knight more qualities in a point guard and decision maker then Eric. Bedsoe had a fantastic night last night, but again with the 8 turns and many of which were of lazy pass sloppy dribbling in traffic variety.
Knights shooting too.....
Knight just had an 8 TO night himself. Neither of these guys can pass themselves out of a wet paper bag. Bledsoe does offer some things Knight doesn't. The rebounding, around the basket play and defense are all fairly superior. They are different players so it depends on what you value.
Just count me as a guy that would like to move at least one of them to start our future stud SG and bring in a young (hungry) PF.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 3:48 pm
by Cap
Hey, Bleds has 20 assists in the past two games and a lot of them looked positively KJ-esque. Yeah, the turnovers are still a problem, but he really seems to be improving as a playmaker. Let's see if he can sustain it.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:51 pm
by LazarusLong
In the face of all the prior kvetching about his PG abilities, Bledsoe has put together a solid little CV in the first eight games. He's an exceptional athlete and a curiosity -- a short of- guard who is charged with running the offense. He can pop the trey or drive balls to wall deep into the paint. He also can play tough one-on-one defense, in stretches.
At least for the moment, he's not the problem.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 5:47 pm
by Mori Chu
I would give up pretty much anything we have for DeMarcus Cousins. I know he's kind of a headcase, and I know he's been on a lot of below-.500 teams which implies something about him and whether he's a "winner," but he's one of few franchise guys in the league. You can build a title team around a guy like that.
A lot of various Trade Machine trades work for Boogie. Morris, Len, Goodwin, and 2 first-rounders, for example. I think you have to load them up with picks or they won't talk.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:24 pm
by JCSunsfan
Mori Chu wrote:I would give up pretty much anything we have for DeMarcus Cousins. I know he's kind of a headcase, and I know he's been on a lot of below-.500 teams which implies something about him and whether he's a "winner," but he's one of few franchise guys in the league. You can build a title team around a guy like that.
A lot of various Trade Machine trades work for Boogie. Morris, Len, Goodwin, and 2 first-rounders, for example. I think you have to load them up with picks or they won't talk.
I would do that trade. I would even throw in another pick.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:32 pm
by Mori Chu
I think Sac could probably do better than that, sadly. Doubt we will have much of a shot at Boogie.
Re: Suns News: Week 3 11/9-11/15
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:24 am
by carey
Mori Chu wrote:I think Sac could probably do better than that, sadly. Doubt we will have much of a shot at Boogie.
Boston will probably offer the Nets unprotected first from this year and some other firsts and a couple of meh prospects and it will get done. All we have is our own unprotected and the Heat unprotected way down the line, which is very valuable if you ask me...
This is probably why we should have held on to that Lakers pick. Knight's ability to play basketball not withstanding.