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I'm glad he's gone, I would've traded him for a 2nd round pick just to get his clown ass off the team.

He's going to play better in Washington, thats almost a guarantee. But you have to remember, no matter how good he plays there it just wasn't going to happen here, atleast not with this bunch.

Indy wrote:

EDC wrote:

Indy wrote:

ShelC wrote:Seriously....now people are unhappy.

No shit. Be unhappy that we didn't turn Mirza into value. Or PJ. Don't be pissed that we got a decent 1st for Keef.

It is more that we are unhappy that Kieff tanked his value so effectively. I'm pretty sure most of us wanted him gone. He had to go but that doesn't mean the Wizards didn't get a steal.

But they didn't. They paid what he was worth. We fucked ourselves over because we invested in him.

I just think this time next year most people will look back at this deal as a steal for the Wizards. Kieff's value is at an all time low. When his head is on straight he is a good player on a great contract. There is definitely a risk for the Wizards but I think the payoff will be worth it.

^ Who really cares? He's a cancer that needed to be removed.

EDC wrote:

Indy wrote:

EDC wrote:

Indy wrote:

ShelC wrote:Seriously....now people are unhappy.

No shit. Be unhappy that we didn't turn Mirza into value. Or PJ. Don't be pissed that we got a decent 1st for Keef.

It is more that we are unhappy that Kieff tanked his value so effectively. I'm pretty sure most of us wanted him gone. He had to go but that doesn't mean the Wizards didn't get a steal.

But they didn't. They paid what he was worth. We fucked ourselves over because we invested in him.

I just think this time next year most people will look back at this deal as a steal for the Wizards. Kieff's value is at an all time low. When his head is on straight he is a good player on a great contract. There is definitely a risk for the Wizards but I think the payoff will be worth it.

Which is why I said we got what he was worth. Will he be a better player there than here? Of course! But that doesn't mean he was more valuable to us.

carey wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
He tanked his value, not sure what you expected in return.

I expected a pick around that range but also a young player to help us going forward.

I didn't. They wanted a young player if the the pick was late first round. This has a good chance to be a lotto pick.

Sabonis, here we come.

You guys seem to be under the impression that I don't think we should have done this deal. I am happy he is gone. I'm confused how there is an issue about me stating I think the Wizards got a great deal. You guys just said of course he will play better for them. Which is basically exactly what I've been saying.

Shrug.

JCSunsfan wrote:

carey wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
He tanked his value, not sure what you expected in return.

I expected a pick around that range but also a young player to help us going forward.

I didn't. They wanted a young player if the the pick was late first round. This has a good chance to be a lotto pick.

Sabonis, here we come.

Good chance? With their easy schedule, I think they will make up ground. They are only 2 losses behind 8th place, 4 games behind 4th place.

EDC wrote:You guys seem to be under the impression that I don't think we should have done this deal. I am happy he is gone. I'm confused how there is an issue about me stating I think the Wizards got a great deal. You guys just said of course he will play better for them. Which is basically exactly what I've been saying.

Shrug.

I was probably responding to the board in general saying we should have got more. Although you didn't say that. So my bad. You can stop shrugging now. The Wizards got a good deal, and so did the Suns.

Indy wrote:

JCSunsfan wrote:

carey wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
He tanked his value, not sure what you expected in return.

I expected a pick around that range but also a young player to help us going forward.

I didn't. They wanted a young player if the the pick was late first round. This has a good chance to be a lotto pick.

Sabonis, here we come.

Good chance? With their easy schedule, I think they will make up ground. They are only 2 losses behind 8th place, 4 games behind 4th place.

So you are saying there is a good chance it WONT be a lotto pick? We want them to struggle.

JCSunsfan wrote:

Indy wrote:

JCSunsfan wrote:

carey wrote:

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
He tanked his value, not sure what you expected in return.

I expected a pick around that range but also a young player to help us going forward.

I didn't. They wanted a young player if the the pick was late first round. This has a good chance to be a lotto pick.

Sabonis, here we come.

Good chance? With their easy schedule, I think they will make up ground. They are only 2 losses behind 8th place, 4 games behind 4th place.

So you are saying there is a good chance it WONT be a lotto pick? We want them to struggle.

Of course we want them to struggle--a bit. We want them to be the 10th pick in the draft. But that doesn't mean that our wants turn into reality. I think it is realistic for them to 13-17 range.

Well Kieff is gone. Wash was a perfect candidate (one more player to pursue KD) and the return is good enough. I'd rather have Oubre than the pick but I'm sure I'll like it at draft night. Humphries is serviciable. I'd look into waiving Teletovic (and Blair, obviously).

Glad this is over.

I am just happy that most of you guys are happy. Maybe the mood around here will be better for a while.

ShelC wrote:Seriously....now people are unhappy.

Hey, I would have been happy if they had left a burning sack of shit on our front step!

Good riddance!

Ring_Wanted wrote:Well Kieff is gone. Wash was a perfect candidate (one more player to pursue KD) and the return is good enough. I'd rather have Oubre than the pick but I'm sure I'll like it at draft night. Humphries is serviciable. I'd look into waiving Teletovic (and Blair, obviously).

Glad this is over.

So who is our new leader?

Indy wrote:

Ring_Wanted wrote:Well Kieff is gone. Wash was a perfect candidate (one more player to pursue KD) and the return is good enough. I'd rather have Oubre than the pick but I'm sure I'll like it at draft night. Humphries is serviciable. I'd look into waiving Teletovic (and Blair, obviously).

Glad this is over.

So who is our new leader?

that should be obvious, who's the least qualified.
Archie Goodwin.

DrSublime wrote:

Indy wrote:

Ring_Wanted wrote:Well Kieff is gone. Wash was a perfect candidate (one more player to pursue KD) and the return is good enough. I'd rather have Oubre than the pick but I'm sure I'll like it at draft night. Humphries is serviciable. I'd look into waiving Teletovic (and Blair, obviously).

Glad this is over.

So who is our new leader?

that should be obvious, who's the least qualified.
Archie Goodwin.

Ooooh. Great logic.

Better late than never.

Welcome to my personal inner circle of grossly detested former Suns players, Markieff.

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:Anyone wanna start the Markieff Morris appreciation thread?

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