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Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:04 pm
by Ring_Wanted
Curry's season is seriously in the conversation for best offensive output ever, at least in terms of modern NBA. Probably can't top Jordan's 32-8-8, maybe a couple more of his early 20s either, but it's right there.

Larry had two 28-30ppg 50-40-90 seasons (plus 9rpg, 6-8apg) but needed 40mpg, whereas Curry used only 34mpg.

TMac 32/6+/5+ @45-38-79% deserves a shout-out once you consider he was absolutely on his own on that Magic team.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:08 pm
by Ring_Wanted
Mori Chu wrote:
The Bobster wrote:
ShelC wrote:Regarding Kobe, I've actually been disgusted all year by the lovefest. He was a douche his entire career, a bad teammate, a bad guy to reporters, raped a girl and got away with it, yet created this illusion in his final year as some loveable, gracious athlete and ambassador to re-write his own history. I think the Lakers sold themselves out with the Farewell Tour farce to make money and stunted the growth of the team and their younger players. I think the Lakers and Kobe disrespected the game last night by giving him 50 shots so he could blow it out one last time. So all I can say is, good riddance. I won't miss him and I'm glad the Lakers have lowered themselves to that level.
This pretty much sums it up for me.
They basically gave away a year to let him chuck and ballhog. Typical. Oh well. I am not sure that many teams would have done differently under the circumstances. Pretty funny that they just fed him the ball to chuck up shots all night. I didn't watch because I was glued to the Warriors' 73rd win. Did the opposing team guard Kobe or did they just let him score? Was this an "Emperor's new clothes" situation?
Then you learn that on his last day alone the Lakers sold 1.2M of Kobe stuff.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:09 pm
by JCSunsfan
Ring_Wanted wrote:Curry's season is seriously in the conversation for best offensive output ever, at least in terms of modern NBA. Probably can't top Jordan's 32-8-8, maybe a couple more of his early 20s either, but it's right there.

Larry had two 28-30ppg 50-40-90 seasons (plus 9rpg, 6-8apg) but needed 40mpg, whereas Curry used only 34mpg.

TMac 32/6+/5+ @45-38-79% deserves a shout-out once you consider he was absolutely on his own on that Magic team.
You mean in the post-Wilt Chamberlain era of course. BC his 50.4-25.7 season never be matched. He did average 48 minutes per game that year, which is remarkable in itself.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:25 pm
by Ring_Wanted
Of course. Modern is just another way to say 'post-Wilt' (and post Oscar) haha. He spent 48.5mpg on the court. Was subbed only in some overtimes if I am not mistaken.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:06 am
by Cap
Played 3882 out of a possible 3890 minutes. How did he never foul out?

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:01 am
by carey
Dudley is on First Take this morning. ESPN2 right now.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:46 am
by Mori Chu
Ring_Wanted wrote:Curry's season is seriously in the conversation for best offensive output ever, at least in terms of modern NBA. Probably can't top Jordan's 32-8-8, maybe a couple more of his early 20s either, but it's right there.

Larry had two 28-30ppg 50-40-90 seasons (plus 9rpg, 6-8apg) but needed 40mpg, whereas Curry used only 34mpg.

TMac 32/6+/5+ @45-38-79% deserves a shout-out once you consider he was absolutely on his own on that Magic team.
Wilt's season where he *averaged* 50 points and 25 rebounds a game stands on its own. But, different era, not really a "modern" stat like others have said.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:46 am
by Indy
Cap wrote:Played 3882 out of a possible 3890 minutes. How did he never foul out?
Which ref would be stupid enough to do that?

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:53 am
by ShelC
I was watching some TMac highlights and he was really a prototype 2/3. Phenomenal physique, wingspan, handles, athleticism, body control, silky smooth jumper, could post, beat his man off the dribble. Total package. And it kills me we missed out on getting him from Orlando.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:02 am
by The Bobster
Cap wrote:Played 3882 out of a possible 3890 minutes. How did he never foul out?
The only 8 minutes Wilt missed all season were when he was ejected after a fight.

Think about that - a guy who scores 50 points and grabs 25 rebounds a night still playing 48 minutes a game. Every game.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:07 am
by The Bobster
Mori Chu wrote:
Ring_Wanted wrote:Curry's season is seriously in the conversation for best offensive output ever, at least in terms of modern NBA. Probably can't top Jordan's 32-8-8, maybe a couple more of his early 20s either, but it's right there.

Larry had two 28-30ppg 50-40-90 seasons (plus 9rpg, 6-8apg) but needed 40mpg, whereas Curry used only 34mpg.

TMac 32/6+/5+ @45-38-79% deserves a shout-out once you consider he was absolutely on his own on that Magic team.
Wilt's season where he *averaged* 50 points and 25 rebounds a game stands on its own. But, different era, not really a "modern" stat like others have said.
Most people consider the "modern era" to have started in 1976-77 when the ABA and NBA merged. It's convenient statistically because the league finally started counting blocked shots, steals and turnovers for players in the 1970's and the 3-point shot came to the league in 1979.

The actual change in play really took course over a long period of time as the league went from the faster-paced game of the 60's and 70's to the over-coached slowed-down game of the 90's to what we have now.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:11 am
by Indy
I hate over-coached games. I really, really hate it in the NFL. I think your coaching should happen in time-outs, breaks between quarters, and half-time. The players should be the ones making the calls on the field.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:25 am
by The Bobster
Indy wrote:I hate over-coached games. I really, really hate it in the NFL. I don't think your coaching should happen in time-outs, breaks between quarters, and half-time. The players should be the ones making the calls on the field.
Mike Fratello was the worst of the bunch.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:28 am
by Indy
Yep. And I realized I had a typo in there. I had a "don't" that shouldn't have been in there.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:32 am
by Superbone
Indy wrote:Yep. And I realized I had a typo in there. I had a "don't" that shouldn't have been in there.
Yeah, I was going to say. Man, that's really hands off!

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:38 am
by Indy
Superbone wrote:
Indy wrote:Yep. And I realized I had a typo in there. I had a "don't" that shouldn't have been in there.
Yeah, I was going to say. Man, that's really hands off!
:lol:

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:56 pm
by Superbone
MJ texts Steph after the Warriors set the all-time reg season wins record:

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Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:06 am
by Aztec Sunsfan
"... I went trough 247 dogs that year..."

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Excellent joke!!!

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:01 am
by Ring_Wanted
ShelC wrote:I was watching some TMac highlights and he was really a prototype 2/3. Phenomenal physique, wingspan, handles, athleticism, body control, silky smooth jumper, could post, beat his man off the dribble. Total package. And it kills me we missed out on getting him from Orlando.
They wanted Marion and JJ, right? Ended up with Steve Francis and Cuttino. Not quite the same (anthough Francis played pretty well for them his first season there).

TMac had everything. More gifted than Kobe or Carter, but his cousin blew up before and took all the spotlight. TMac recently was asked and said that considering the way his career unfolded he wishes he had stayed in Toronto. The 'I tried man' interview after yet another 1st round exit is iconic.

Re: Around the League: Week 25 4/11 - 4/17

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:50 pm
by carey
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15223 ... head-coach
The Brooklyn Nets have named Atlanta Hawks assistant Kenny Atkinson as their new head coach, the team announced Sunday.

Atkinson will continue with the Hawks until the end of the team's postseason run.