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Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:21 am
by SunsRIt
This sucks. Remember when being a Suns fan was actually fun?

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:26 am
by Superbone
SunsRIt wrote:This sucks. Remember when being a Suns fan was actually fun?
Yeah, before a certain owner showed up starting with 'S' and ending in 'r'. Unfortunately, he's not a savior. He inherited a very good team just as they were acquiring Nash and after that played out, we have gone down ever since except for our "lucky" blip before the Dragic screw-over job.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:43 am
by O_Gardino
The one year there isn't a consensus #1 pick...

I really hope we don't fall into any of the traps in the top 10.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:45 am
by Mori Chu
Split T wrote:Lakers pick looks like it will probably be 10/11. Obviously the trade still sucks, but it lessens the sting a little that we didn't miss out on a top 5 pick.
Yes, but, do you know what I'd rather have a top 8-12 pick than? Hint: B _ _ _ _ _ _ K _ _ _ _ _.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:53 am
by SunsRIt
Superbone wrote:
SunsRIt wrote:This sucks. Remember when being a Suns fan was actually fun?
Yeah, before a certain owner showed up starting with 'S' and ending in 'r'. Unfortunately, he's not a savior. He inherited a very good team just as they were acquiring Nash and after that played out, we have gone down ever since except for our "lucky" blip before the Dragic screw-over job.
I agree. He bought the team for just over $400 million, last valuation I saw was the team being worth about $1.1 billion. Isn't it time for him to take his
$700 million in profit and go?

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:09 am
by Split T
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Split T wrote:Lakers pick looks like it will probably be 10/11. Obviously the trade still sucks, but it lessens the sting a little that we didn't miss out on a top 5 pick.
Yes, but, do you know what I'd rather have a top 8-12 pick than? Hint: B _ _ _ _ _ _ K _ _ _ _ _.
I agree, hence the "trade still sucks" comment. In hindsight it's just not as bad as it could have been. It's no Celtics/nets trade.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:14 am
by The Bobster
Rasketball-reference.com and TheFiveThiryEight.com both have the suns with the best odds for the #1 pick, and have the Heat pick around #15-#17. Basketball_reference.com's simulation has the Suns with an 82% chance of landing in the top 4 picks and a 96% chance of being in the top 6.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:16 am
by Superbone
The Bobster wrote:Rasketball-reference.com and TheFiveThiryEight.com both have the suns with the best odds for the #1 pick, and have the Heat pick around #15-#17. Basketball_reference.com's simulation has the Suns with an 82% chance of landing in the top 4 picks and a 96% chance of being in the top 6.
I love it! Keep 'em coming, Bobster!

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:25 am
by Split T
The Bobster wrote:Rasketball-reference.com and TheFiveThiryEight.com both have the suns with the best odds for the #1 pick, and have the Heat pick around #15-#17. Basketball_reference.com's simulation has the Suns with an 82% chance of landing in the top 4 picks and a 96% chance of being in the top 6.
That 48 point loss sure helped. I'm sure those sites factor point differential into their projections and that loss dropped us below Sacramento for the worst point differential in the NBA. Have we lost 3 games by 40 points this year? Has that ever happened before?

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:25 am
by The Bobster

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:20 am
by Mori Chu
The Bobster wrote:Rasketball-reference.com and TheFiveThiryEight.com both have the suns with the best odds for the #1 pick, and have the Heat pick around #15-#17. Basketball_reference.com's simulation has the Suns with an 82% chance of landing in the top 4 picks and a 96% chance of being in the top 6.
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Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:41 pm
by JCSunsfan
The Bobster wrote:Rasketball-reference.com and TheFiveThiryEight.com both have the suns with the best odds for the #1 pick, and have the Heat pick around #15-#17. Basketball_reference.com's simulation has the Suns with an 82% chance of landing in the top 4 picks and a 96% chance of being in the top 6.
Hmm. Top pick. Heat pick in the #15-#17 range. Our pick next year. Josh Jackson or TJ Warren as trade bait. I would think it might be possible to get two picks in the top 7.

Say we get #1. We could trade down to 3 or 4. Pick up another number 1 pick (2019). Combine that with Miami pick and an additional asset (TJ or the Suns pick next year), move to 7. Pick up Jackson or Bamba (or Porter if he falls that far).

First pick. One of Doncic, Young, or Ayton.
Second pick. One of Porter, Jackson, Bamba, Bagley.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:41 pm
by Gladiator
Atlanta just beat Detroit. We're only half a loss behind Sacramento for top spot in the Tankathon!

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:31 pm
by Mori Chu
I think if we keep holding Booker out for a while, we'll be in great tanking shape.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:06 pm
by The Bobster
I'm not too worried about the next game (Monday vs. Golden State).

I just want to see a good effort.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:51 pm
by Superbone
The Bobster wrote:I'm not too worried about the next game (Monday vs. Golden State).

I just want to see a good effort.
Speaking of which...

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:54 pm
by The Bobster
ESPN.com's projected records also has the Suns coming in last/first -

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/BP ... ayoff-odds

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:03 pm
by Superbone
Really good to hear as this will be the deepest draft in memory. I wonder if any of these projections take Elfrid Payton into account. His facilitating last night resulted in a much faster pace for our team. The Suns posted season highs in field goal percentage (54.8) and points in the paint (66).

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:34 pm
by The Bobster
But still lost (their defense is an even bigger issue than their offense). I think the projections are based on the team's play up to this point since they can't account for variables like future injuries, changes in playing time and player transactions.

On the bright side -the Suns have a tough schedule from here on out, so that bodes well when it comes to draft position.

Re: 2018 Phoenix Suns Pick Watch

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:42 pm
by JustWinBaby
Superbone wrote:
SunsRIt wrote:This sucks. Remember when being a Suns fan was actually fun?
Yeah, before a certain owner showed up starting with 'S' and ending in 'r'. Unfortunately, he's not a savior. He inherited a very good team just as they were acquiring Nash and after that played out, we have gone down ever since except for our "lucky" blip before the Dragic screw-over job.
WTF - you are mister positive - the master of PMA on this board

The truth, the whole truth nothing but the truth.

If McDonough is around for the draft I hope he does not crap his pants, or should I say ours.