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"The sex was GREAT!.. Other than her needing lubrication and me not finishing."

Price has a place in this league - As a guy you put in for 5-10 minutes every few games to disrupt the other teams' guards.

He should NOT be getting 22 minutes a night on a consistent basis, especially when a) he's blocking our young shooting guards from playing and b) he's playing all his minutes with Bledsoe and Knight anyways/not providing relief for our PGs.

Shabazz wrote:Price has a place in this league - As a guy you put in for 5-10 minutes every few games to disrupt the other teams' guards.

He should NOT be getting 22 minutes a night on a consistent basis, especially when a) he's blocking our young shooting guards from playing and b) he's playing all his minutes with Bledsoe and Knight anyways/not providing relief for our PGs.

Agreed.

AmareIsGod wrote:

azsportsfan wrote:I thought the rotation was great, other than Markieff and Tucker starting, and Price getting time over Booker. Was nervous with Tucker and Kieff and coming back in at the end, but it worked out this time.

Sounds the opposite of thinking it was a great rotation. A poor combination of starters. That same poor combination playing in the clutch moments of the game. That to me sounds like poor rotations by the coach. I'll drink whatever optimism juice you're sipping on

Ok, I'll bite. Warren should be starting, but he is playing good minutes. Who is going to start instead of Kieff? I would LOVE a starting-caliber PF. We don't have one, really. I like Leuer's energy off the bench, but I don't think he's a starter. But the minutes were good outside of the "starting" labels for the SF and PF positions.
So, the only thing I didn't like was Price getting minutes over Booker.

azsportsfan wrote: . I like Leuer's energy off the bench, but I don't think he's a starter.

He looked like a starting PF tonight. He was Googs out there, man. Only with a little more range. He was making the right pass, rebounding, defending, driving, dunking, hitting 3's. What more would you want out of your starting PF?

I think Leuer is possibly a guy that took a little longer to find himself and his footing in the league. Just because he hasn't been a starter doesn't mean he isn't capable of becoming one. The guy I saw tonight, several times this season and during the preseason looks like a starting caliber PF.

He did that in some games earlier in the season, too. Then he didn't. I don't have a problem with him starting, but I don't think he is a starting-caliber PF. I will need to go back and see his stats when starting. I just think he is better off of the bench. He got good minutes though, which is great and prompted my first comment. Perhaps if given an extended opportunity (Markieff trade) he will prove me wrong. Would love that.

Superbone wrote:

The Bobster wrote:Tucker teeters between non-factor and detriment.

...and game saver.

Being awful for most of the game and doing well at the end isn't a game saver. We wouldn't have been in that position in the first place.

Indy wrote:

Superbone wrote:

The Bobster wrote:Tucker teeters between non-factor and detriment.

...and game saver.

Being awful for most of the game and doing well at the end isn't a game saver. We wouldn't have been in that position in the first place.

Tucker alone wasn't the reason we needed to be saved. Give credit where credit is due. We probably lose that game if Tucker didn't do what he did to end the game.

AmareIsGod wrote:"The sex was GREAT!.. Other than her needing lubrication and me not finishing."

Superbone wrote:

Indy wrote:

Superbone wrote:

The Bobster wrote:Tucker teeters between non-factor and detriment.

...and game saver.

Being awful for most of the game and doing well at the end isn't a game saver. We wouldn't have been in that position in the first place.

Tucker alone wasn't the reason we needed to be saved. Give credit where credit is due. We probably lose that game if Tucker didn't do what he did to end the game.

Maybe I am crazy, but I didn't see anything that Tucker did late in the game that sealed a win. I was actually screaming at him for the 3 second violation). I just went back to check the play by play and don't see anything their either. In the last 4 minutes he had a TO and a steal, missed 1/made 1 free throw, and had an orb for a put back. He didn't do anything that TJ couldn't have done.

If anyone sealed the deal, it was Bledsoe with that block/rebound on Scola (to atone for his missed FT and TO right before).

Our team is great except for the frontcourt, and sometimes the backcourt.

Mori Chu wrote:Our team is great except for the frontcourt, and sometimes the backcourt.

It is probably more accurate to say that sometimes our back court is great.

Indy wrote:

Superbone wrote:

Indy wrote:

Superbone wrote:

The Bobster wrote:Tucker teeters between non-factor and detriment.

...and game saver.

Being awful for most of the game and doing well at the end isn't a game saver. We wouldn't have been in that position in the first place.

Tucker alone wasn't the reason we needed to be saved. Give credit where credit is due. We probably lose that game if Tucker didn't do what he did to end the game.

Maybe I am crazy, but I didn't see anything that Tucker did late in the game that sealed a win. I was actually screaming at him for the 3 second violation). I just went back to check the play by play and don't see anything their either. In the last 4 minutes he had a TO and a steal, missed 1/made 1 free throw, and had an orb for a put back. He didn't do anything that TJ couldn't have done.

If anyone sealed the deal, it was Bledsoe with that block/rebound on Scola (to atone for his missed FT and TO right before).

I don't think you're crazy but you have a closed mind to Tucker. Actually watch the last 4 minutes. Don't look at a transcript. The offensive rebound and put back with seconds left on the clock was huge. Yes, Bledsoe obviously ended the game with the Scola block.

I was impressed by Alex's ability to step out on guards this game. He got into the ballhandler a few times in the second half and made them give up the ball. He also helped trap a couple ballhandlers. I think this ultimately be his strength - he can't get vertical very well (aside from the fact that he is the physical embodiment of "verticality"), but he can be very good horizontally when he gets low.

Also, 0 turnovers

you have a closed mind to Tucker.

I defend him more than most here. I just think he is a net nothing this season, and he keeps proving me right. At least Bledsoe's ridiculous TOs are (usually) more than balanced out on his defense, rebounding, and scoring.

Quick question: was that ORB and putback off an air ball? Wouldn't it have to be with only seconds left on the shot clock? I don't remember an air ball from Keef.

Tucker gives the Suns a measure of rebounding and defense.
In limited minutes, he is of some value.
My main complaint is that he chirps and barks at the refs too much.

But this year Tucker's rebounding has fallen off.

He's, physical and a willing defender, but his offense has been a complete dud this year and we can't afford to have two complete non-scorers (Tucker & Chandler) in the starting lineup while Morris is still doing whatever it is he's doing.

Indy wrote:

you have a closed mind to Tucker.

I defend him more than most here. I just think he is a net nothing this season, and he keeps proving me right. At least Bledsoe's ridiculous TOs are (usually) more than balanced out on his defense, rebounding, and scoring.

Quick question: was that ORB and putback off an air ball? Wouldn't it have to be with only seconds left on the shot clock? I don't remember an air ball from Keef.

I wasn't talking about his contribution for the season. I was talking about the three big plays down the stretch in this game. Yes, the ORB putback was off an air ball. It was a tough hook over his head for the basket.

The Bobster wrote:But this year Tucker's rebounding has fallen off.

He's, physical and a willing defender, but his offense has been a complete dud this year and we can't afford to have two complete non-scorers (Tucker & Chandler) in the starting lineup while Morris is still doing whatever it is he's doing.

Exactly. Three non-scorers in our starting line up is awful. So far this season, BOTH of our starting guards score as much as our entire starting front court. It is sad.