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And yeah, move Knight even if you are forced to give a discount. Somebody surely has one or two year crappy deals and available picks in '17 or beyond. He'd make a nice Jason Terry for a contender.

I would see if Philly is dumb enough to take Knight for Robert Covington.

Cool, but we also need to learn from the IT3 trade. The player might need to go, but you can't just gift teams good pieces. For instance, I don't want him to blow up under Carlisle in Dallas, for free at least. I think winning teams would be more inclined to spend the kind of assets we should be pursuing (picks-kids) provided we make it for them a neutral or favorable move cap wise.

https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/720671832399949824 This is the sort of thing that will keep us at the bottom of the standings.

Pay for a good coach with experience.

I also don't give a damn what the players want.

We have two types of players on this team. Young guys who don't know what is best for them and vets that don't matter.

I'm sure the players want him to stay. When he took over he didn't have to hold anyone accountable. He was there to boost morale and help players develop their individual games. They were well out of the playoff hunt so winning didn't matter. By keeping him it instills the message that winning doesn't matter. I know the roster was kind of junk but the team stats under Watson were atrocious. I don't see how you keep him WITHOUT sending the message that we want to be the Sacramento Kings for the next decade. But we probably will because it's the Suns and it's Sarver.

But we probably will because it's the Suns and it's Sarver.

I hate to agree, but I have to. We are setting ourselves up for continued failure at worst, and mediocrity at best.

I guess I'm the lone supporter for keeping him. I think he has what it takes to become a great coach and I would enjoy watching him grow with our young nucleus. He had our guys working hard. Even Archie became respectable handling the ball on offense.

I wouldn't be opposed to George Karl. I think if he has the support of management, he could be good here. I think he had the right mix of being disciplined, but also encouraging to player growth.

I want to avoid any coach who wants too much control over the roster. That's why I'm against guys like Van Gundy or Thibs. At least Watson checks that box.

Superbone wrote:I guess I'm the lone supporter for keeping him. I think he has what it takes to become a great coach and I would enjoy watching him grow with our young nucleus. He had our guys working hard. Even Archie became respectable handling the ball on offense.

But has he shown you anything on offense or defense to make you think he can coach either of them at a great level?

wpmiller42 wrote:I wouldn't be opposed to George Karl. I think if he has the support of management, he could be good here. I think he had the right mix of being disciplined, but also encouraging to player growth.

We need a 5-6 year coach at least. This team is going to take time to build and you cannot do that by switching coaches constantly. Whoever they get they need to commit for the long haul.

Karl hardly looks like he will survive next year.

Indy wrote:

Superbone wrote:I guess I'm the lone supporter for keeping him. I think he has what it takes to become a great coach and I would enjoy watching him grow with our young nucleus. He had our guys working hard. Even Archie became respectable handling the ball on offense.

But has he shown you anything on offense or defense to make you think he can coach either of them at a great level?

Newp. He sure talks a good game though. So he will win the press conferences anyway.

Just what we need Carey.

Indy wrote:

Superbone wrote:I guess I'm the lone supporter for keeping him. I think he has what it takes to become a great coach and I would enjoy watching him grow with our young nucleus. He had our guys working hard. Even Archie became respectable handling the ball on offense.

But has he shown you anything on offense or defense to make you think he can coach either of them at a great level?

Give him time. He had to come in midseason without a training camp. I think both our offense and defense have improved since he took over. It's about the process. Process takes time.

Superbone wrote:Give him time. He had to come in midseason without a training camp. I think both our offense and defense have improved since he took over. It's about the process. Process takes time.

I'm not an analytics guy so I don't have numbers to back up my claim, but I don't think their defense improved. It seemed to get worse to my eyes. Maybe a tad fewer blowouts? Still we were giving up a metric shit-ton of points.

It got much worse. Much.

I'm just very confused what Watson has done to make him the front runner.

Well....besides actually want the job.

And not command much of a salary.

And have good relationships with most of the roster and front office.

It's the cheapest, easiest, and quickest way to get a coach.

Then slap a fast food ad on his jacket.

Cap wrote:Then slap a fast food ad on his jacket.

Indy wrote:It got much worse. Much.

Hmm. The Suns don't agree with you guys' assessment. From the Coro article where he says Watson is the front runner:

Watson pulled favor with the Suns for setting up Markieff Morris’ trade value in a short time, having late-season defensive improvement, focusing on fundamentals and positive, direct communication.