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Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:42 pm
by EDC
carey wrote:Wade just embarrassed Len.
Yep. Although that D by Bledsoe. It isn't like it is overtime or anything.

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:44 pm
by carey
Oh well.

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:49 pm
by EDC
The kids played well until Watson changed the offense on them in the last few minutes of the fourth.

Can they really just DNP Knight and Chandler for the rest of the season? Should be interesting.

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:53 pm
by Danimal
EDC wrote:The kids played well until Watson changed the offense on them in the last few minutes of the fourth.

Can they really just DNP Knight and Chandler for the rest of the season? Should be interesting.
Bledsoe also. Was trash when the game counted. Handed the game to the bulls with turnovers and selfish play
Vet leadership!

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:43 pm
by INFORMER
Danimal wrote:i guess the tank is on
Like we were winning so much with PJ, Tyson, & Knight.

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:11 pm
by specialsauce
GREAT game. Loved seeing the young guys. Gave us just as much fight as the vets did too, no tanking here.

Jones Jr looks decent, his athleticism is ridiculous

I like Big Sauce on this team in the future more than Len. I don't want Len back at the price I'm sure he'll command.

Ulis needs more and more minutes.

If this is the rotation the rest of the year it's exactly what I've been hoping for all year

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:22 pm
by The Bobster
Race for the worst -

Brooklyn - 9-48
Phoenix - 18-40
LA Lakers - 19-40
Orlando - 21-38
Philadelphia - 22-45
Dallas - 22-35
New Orleans - 23-35
New York - 23-35
Minnesota - 23-35

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:17 pm
by JustWinBaby
Great game. I liked the rotation especially watching Alex Len suck for 35 minutes. This is audition for the off season as I see it and I think it is a smart move by management.

4 points and 7 rebounds against the great Robin Lopez. He just does not have it and does anyone really want us to give this guy a big contract in the off season. He remains a big white stiff with little or no aggression or passion. I really do not know what he does well. Some will sau he is a good rim protector. If you do remember to post the poster he is on with Dwayne Wade. He came back in just in time to preserve the loss.

I really want to see more of Jones Jr. While he is young he appears to havve some skills and was a willing passer. We need more of that on this team. I do not think he even took a shot other than his dunk and put back. Most of the time you see youngsters just jacking up shots to get some attention.

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:40 am
by Mori Chu
JustWinBaby wrote:Great game. I liked the rotation especially watching Alex Len suck for 35 minutes. This is audition for the off season as I see it and I think it is a smart move by management.

4 points and 7 rebounds against the great Robin Lopez. He just does not have it and does anyone really want us to give this guy a big contract in the off season. He remains a big white stiff with little or no aggression or passion. I really do not know what he does well. Some will sau he is a good rim protector. If you do remember to post the poster he is on with Dwayne Wade. He came back in just in time to preserve the loss.

I really want to see more of Jones Jr. While he is young he appears to havve some skills and was a willing passer. We need more of that on this team. I do not think he even took a shot other than his dunk and put back. Most of the time you see youngsters just jacking up shots to get some attention.
Not a great game for Len. But I don't think it is totally fair to judge him on one game where his role and minutes were significantly changed. If he is going to get a real chance to prove himself the rest of the season, we need to give him a little more time. I think he will improve a lot.

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:10 am
by Superbone
We were lucky to get out of there with a loss. These guys don't know they're supposed to be tanking. Good to see the young guns get playing time. That was fun to watch.

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:16 am
by Superbone
Danimal wrote:bulls getting every call and no call
this one is done
The refs definitely helped the Suns pull out a loss. I do feel bad for the young guys though. They gave it their all. Booker was beating himself up over that missed FT.

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:27 am
by Superbone
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
JustWinBaby wrote:Great game. I liked the rotation especially watching Alex Len suck for 35 minutes. This is audition for the off season as I see it and I think it is a smart move by management.

4 points and 7 rebounds against the great Robin Lopez. He just does not have it and does anyone really want us to give this guy a big contract in the off season. He remains a big white stiff with little or no aggression or passion. I really do not know what he does well. Some will sau he is a good rim protector. If you do remember to post the poster he is on with Dwayne Wade. He came back in just in time to preserve the loss.

I really want to see more of Jones Jr. While he is young he appears to havve some skills and was a willing passer. We need more of that on this team. I do not think he even took a shot other than his dunk and put back. Most of the time you see youngsters just jacking up shots to get some attention.
Not a great game for Len. But I don't think it is totally fair to judge him on one game where his role and minutes were significantly changed. If he is going to get a real chance to prove himself the rest of the season, we need to give him a little more time. I think he will improve a lot.
It's also not appropriate to bring race into it.

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:15 am
by UglyTruth
Superbone wrote:
Danimal wrote:bulls getting every call and no call
this one is done
The refs definitely helped the Suns pull out a loss. I do feel bad for the young guys though. They gave it their all. Booker was beating himself up over that missed FT.
Adam Silver seems like a much better man than Stern and I think he actually values parity in the league so I wonder if he's purposely gonna help us tank this season. I've seen more than a few games this season with some very questionable calls against us in key moments which helped secure the L.

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:18 am
by UglyTruth
Danimal wrote:
EDC wrote:The kids played well until Watson changed the offense on them in the last few minutes of the fourth.

Can they really just DNP Knight and Chandler for the rest of the season? Should be interesting.
Bledsoe also. Was trash when the game counted. Handed the game to the bulls with turnovers and selfish play
Vet leadership!
He might be doing it on purpose. We all know he's McD's favorite player and I wonder if McD has some kind of uber the table handshake deal with him promising Bledsoe that if he can help the Suns lose then McD will get Bledsoe a higher than market contract when Bledsoe becomes a FA.

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:27 am
by The Bobster
Projected wins for each team by fivethirtyeight.com/basketball-beference.com

Brooklyn - 14-68/16-66
Phoenix - 27-55/27-55
LA Lakers - 27-55/27-55
Orlando - 30-52/29-53
Philadelphia - 32-50/31-51
New Orleans - 32-50/32-50
New York - 32-50/33-49
Minnesota - 32-50/33-49
Dallas - 33-49/34-48

I suspect it might end up 1. BRK, 2. LAL, 3. PHO, 4. ORL, 5. PHI, 6. MIN, 7. NYK, 8. DAL, 9. NOP

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:10 am
by Mori Chu
It would be such a Phoenix Suns moment for us to get the #3 pick in a draft where there's a consensus of 2 stud players at the top.

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:35 am
by JustWinBaby
Superbone wrote:
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
JustWinBaby wrote:Great game. I liked the rotation especially watching Alex Len suck for 35 minutes. This is audition for the off season as I see it and I think it is a smart move by management.

4 points and 7 rebounds against the great Robin Lopez. He just does not have it and does anyone really want us to give this guy a big contract in the off season. He remains a big white stiff with little or no aggression or passion. I really do not know what he does well. Some will sau he is a good rim protector. If you do remember to post the poster he is on with Dwayne Wade. He came back in just in time to preserve the loss.

I really want to see more of Jones Jr. While he is young he appears to havve some skills and was a willing passer. We need more of that on this team. I do not think he even took a shot other than his dunk and put back. Most of the time you see youngsters just jacking up shots to get some attention.
Not a great game for Len. But I don't think it is totally fair to judge him on one game where his role and minutes were significantly changed. If he is going to get a real chance to prove himself the rest of the season, we need to give him a little more time. I think he will improve a lot.
It's also not appropriate to bring race into it.
You are correct. He is just a stiff, with nothing special in his game. He plays with little passion and has shown little or no improvement in his game since he was drafted. Ryan bragged today about what a good position we are salary cap wise. If we give this guy a huge contract it will be mistake.

I wonder why we did not hear his name in trade rumors?

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:37 am
by djy2j
A lot of good things came out of this game. Chandler and Knight sit and the kids play. Ulis is already our best playmaker since Nash. Jones has some role-playing potential. Williams can be a cheap back up center.

Booker had a great learning moment missing that free throw.

Len will never be more than a decent back up. So let's not pay him for more than one. Should have moved him. Now we let him walk or over pay. Not sure if a sign and trade is possible.

Bledsoe was abysmal down the stretch.

Watson got thoroughly out coached. Not surprisingly

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:28 pm
by specialsauce
Len is a good back up center that I suspect will command starting center money. At cost vs value, I'd rather keep big Sauce and draft/sign a new starting center down the road

Re: Game Day: Suns (18-39) @ Bulls (28-29), Fri 2/24/17

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:32 pm
by Superbone
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:It would be such a Phoenix Suns moment for us to get the #3 pick in a draft where there's a consensus of 2 stud players at the top.
Nah, there will be three consensus picks and we will be pushed to 4th by somebody moving up.