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Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:54 am
by Dan H
I don't know. I don't think it's a Carmelo but maybe it is.
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:01 am
by Indy
It is not Carmelo.
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:10 am
by Ring_Wanted
Apparently the Nets don't want Lance so Charlotte is getting cut out.
https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/556114669287378945
Good decision by the Nets.
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:24 am
by Dan H
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:35 am
by Superbone
Dan H wrote:Anyone have Insider?
Yes.
Unfortunately not me or anybody I know. (Sorry, saw The Imitation Game last weekend.)
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:38 am
by Cap
I'll go out on a limb and guess that Haberstroh's suggestions do not include trading Love for Bledsoe.
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:01 am
by Sunsfan4life
Roto saying Minnesota is actively shopping Thad Young. He's an Expiring making I think 7mil per?
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:10 am
by ShelC
Philosophically, I don't think you can win with a volume scoring SF like Melo. You need to be able to slow it down and play down low, not have a SF take mid range jump shots (as good as Melo is at those). I think Bledsoe and Melo would be a dynamic duo, who could really play off each other well, but I also think Melo marginalizes other players around him, and would stunt the development of a guy like Len for example. We would only go so far with Melo taking 25 jumpers a night and I'm not an advocate of playing him at the 4 (even though he had a great year there last year).
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:17 am
by EDC
If we want the Melo effect just give Kieff the ball 90% of the time down the court. Saves us a lot of cap space as well.

Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:19 am
by Cap
ShelC wrote:Philosophically, I don't think you can win with a volume scoring SF like Melo.
Didn't Miami recently have a little success with a volume scoring SF?
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:31 am
by Sunsfan4life
Lebron isn't just a "volume" scoring SF. He does so many other things better then Melo. But just takes better shots too as evidence by his FG% when he was in Miami...
Lebrons FG% in Miami....
51%,53,57,57
FGA 19,19,18,18
Melos FG% over those 46,43,45,45
19,22,21,20
Melo is a chucker plain and simple. A talented one, but Its laughable how people call him a superstar. Can't play D, Takes plays off, and the majority of his shots are contested jumpers. When he's on he's on, but IMO he is one of the most overrated players in the league.
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:33 am
by Mori Chu
I just want us to get guys who pass, hit 3s, defend, and/or rebound like hell. Chuckers, ballhogs, guys who can't hit open jumpers, guys who slack on defense, knuckleheads, are not welcome.
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:57 am
by ShelC
Guys like LeBron and Durant transcend positions. LeBron can play anywhere, same as Durant. Melo's a natural scoring SF.
Regarding his defense...don't be fooled. He absolutely CAN play defense, he just picks and chooses when. More than anything, he's not a leader. Look at his most successful teams and look at the roster. On the Nugs, it was Chauncey, KMart, Camby keeping the lockerroom in check. With the Knicks it was Kidd, Kurt Thomas, Camby, KMart, Sheed. Those guys left and it's been downhill since.
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:05 pm
by The Bobster
Cavaliers get: G Eric Bledsoe and C Alex Len
Phoenix Suns get: PF Kevin Love
See the trade
Why the Cavs would do it: James is as close to Bledsoe as any young player in the league, and they share an agent in Rich Paul. Plus, Bledsoe just happens to excel where the Cavs are weakest: defense. Bledsoe can guard 2s as well as point guards that Irving can't. Bledsoe is slowly shooting better from deep, and if the Cavs want to get younger and more athletic, this is the deal for them. At 7-foot-1, Len gives them a young giant who can take up space in the middle and provide depth for Mozgov and Thompson in case the latter doesn't agree to a deal this summer.
Why the Suns would do it: The Suns wanted Love this summer and now they have a logjam at point guard. This deal solves both issues. The tri-point guard lineup has actually been successful this season, but keeping all three players -- Goran Dragic, Isaiah Thomas and Bledsoe -- happy all season long might be too tall of a task. Dragic running pick-and-rolls in space with Love like he did with Channing Frye last season? That's a scary proposition. Plus,
Len becomes a bit of a luxury now that Brandan Wright is in the fold. (WTF???)
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:06 pm
by The Bobster
No thank you.
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:08 pm
by Cap
Cap wrote:I'll go out on a limb and guess that Haberstroh's suggestions do not include trading Love for Bledsoe.
Wow, I guess that limb broke.
Trade Bledsoe and Len for a guy who will opt out in the summer. Brilliant.
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:16 pm
by Ring_Wanted
The Bobster wrote:No thank you.
Agreed.
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:28 pm
by LazarusLong
The Bobster wrote:
Cavaliers get: G Eric Bledsoe and C Alex Len
Phoenix Suns get: PF Kevin Love
See the trade
Why the Cavs would do it: James is as close to Bledsoe as any young player in the league, and they share an agent in Rich Paul. Plus, Bledsoe just happens to excel where the Cavs are weakest: defense. Bledsoe can guard 2s as well as point guards that Irving can't. Bledsoe is slowly shooting better from deep, and if the Cavs want to get younger and more athletic, this is the deal for them. At 7-foot-1, Len gives them a young giant who can take up space in the middle and provide depth for Mozgov and Thompson in case the latter doesn't agree to a deal this summer.
Why the Suns would do it: The Suns wanted Love this summer and now they have a logjam at point guard. This deal solves both issues. The tri-point guard lineup has actually been successful this season, but keeping all three players -- Goran Dragic, Isaiah Thomas and Bledsoe -- happy all season long might be too tall of a task. Dragic running pick-and-rolls in space with Love like he did with Channing Frye last season? That's a scary proposition. Plus,
Len becomes a bit of a luxury now that Brandan Wright is in the fold. (WTF???)
Yeah, I remember my first acid trip ... sorta ...
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:30 pm
by Superbone
Boy does he devalue Len. Depth behind Mozgov and Thompson? Len a luxury because of Wright? Sheesh.
Re: Around the League: Week 12 1/12-1/18
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:32 pm
by Dan H
Yeah that's a horrible trade.