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Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:51 pm
by carey
Week 6 is mercifully over. There were four losses, three of which were by 3 points or less, and one by 5 in overtime. We need drastic changes.

Last Week's Games

@ Brooklyn Nets LOSS 94-91
@ Detroit Pistons LOSS 127-122OT
@ Washington Wizards LOSS 109-106
@ Memphis Grizzlies LOSS 95-93

This Week's Games

Monday, December 7th @ Chicago Bulls 8:00PM EST
Wednesday, December 9th vs. Orlando Magic 9:00PM EST
Friday, December 11th vs. Portland Trailblazers 9:30PM EST
Sunday, December 13th vs. Minnesota Timberwolves 3:30PM EST

Suns Stories

BSotS about the possible Markieff to Rockets trade: LINK
GameDay Orange Slices: LINK

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:15 pm
by carey
Merging all Colangelo posts to the ATL Week 7 thread.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:13 am
by Indy
https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/674290837082238976

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:41 am
by carey
Indy wrote:https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/674290837082238976
Oh no. I want him out my viewing zone.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:42 am
by Indy
That was just for you carey.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:51 pm
by Mori Chu
Oh please please let it be for Ryan Anderson.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:33 pm
by Split T
Ryan Anderson is a nice player, but I'm struggling to see what he offers that we aren't already getting with leuer and teletovic

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:55 pm
by Indy
Split T wrote:Ryan Anderson is a nice player, but I'm struggling to see what he offers that we aren't already getting with leuer and teletovic
Yeah, I would like to be able to mix it up, instead of having roughly 3 of the same guy at varying levels.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:47 pm
by Nodack
We need a bruiser who defends and gets rebounds.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:06 pm
by Superbone
carey wrote:
Indy wrote:https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/674290837082238976
Oh no. I want him out my viewing zone.
Take one for the team, carey!

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:15 pm
by Danimal
hmmm how about the idea of trying to get the Pelicans pick into the equation. They've had a crappy enough start that it may turn into a lotto pick, but may be desperate enough to make to the playoffs to include (think Aaron Brooks trade). Then we have 3 first rounders next year right? Could be useful in upgrading to a higher pick or including in a trade.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:37 pm
by Furlanfufi
I would love Ryan Anderson on the team.
I would even entertain the idea of playing him instead of Tucker when Chandler returns.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:50 pm
by Superbone
One thing you cannot accuse Markieff of is being a liar. He said in the off-season that he wouldn't play for the Suns and he has been true to his word.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:59 pm
by Danimal
:lol:

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:37 pm
by pickle
I also don't think Ryan Anderson will be a significant upgrade. He's also due for a new contract, and is not particularly young. I'd love to get some spacing out of the four spot, but not at the expense of defense and rebounding. This may be kind of silly but I'd even take on a guy like Trevor Booker. If we can't have brothers on the same team can't we at least claim to have the best Bookers in the league?

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:40 pm
by Shabazz
Ryan Anderson is significantly better than Booker and a decent rebounder too.

We couldn't really trade for a mediocre bruiser-type since they wouldn't pair well with Len or Chandler.

I'm all for Anderson. We can deal with his contract in the offseason.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:24 pm
by specialsauce
We don't need other bruisers. We have Len and Chandler. They are our bruisers. We just don't use them enough.

We just need to get rid of Tucker and Markieff.


Warren should start and Teletovic should back him up.

Anderson could start at the 4 and Leuer could back him up.

If we're going around the 2 guards as our main offense, we need to surround them with shooters and players who can move the ball. Booker, Teletovic, Leuer, Anderson.....all these players fit that mold. Tucker doesn't belong on the court. Morris would be good if he gave half a shit.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:49 pm
by pickle
Anderson is a decent rebounder, but to my untrained eyes he seems slow footed and not long enough to be effective as a post defender. I don't have any issues with his shooting, but having a guy that can be a net positive on defense in the paint would be nice. The contract comment was more as a comparison to Terrence Jones who has been mentioned as a possibility, but dismissed due to his impending contract renewal.

Booker puts up decent numbers when given minutes but I'm not sure what his skill level is against starter level competition, so I was just throwing that out there.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:43 am
by Ring_Wanted
I really like Anderson, but strategically using Markieff to get him (if it is just him) doesn't look like a sound decision. People know Kieff can play and above all, that he's dirty cheap. As much as he has screwed up, we are not talking about two second round picks.

Ryan Anderson is a hell of a role player (also injury prone) but is not going to turn around this team, and there is a pretty good chance you are left with just cap space after some months.

Instead of this route, I'd go with a package that gives us something under control for the future. 1stR picks, kids under the rookie scale, or a worthy RFA like Motiejunas.

Re: Suns News: Week 7 12/7-12/13

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:53 am
by carey
Ryan Anderson is a great fit at PF for us. I think he's better than Teletovic and my new favorite, Leuer overall. He's still only 27 even though he's been around for 8 years already. He's a solid guy so it would be a huge 180 in attitudes from Markieff. The fact that he's a UFA and can split after the season when everyone and their grandmother will have room to offer a max contract (not that he'll get a max) is a huge issue. We have to get a positive asset for the future if we move Markieff. As many have said Anderson is also redundant with the skill sets of our other PFs.

Something else to consider is that Teletovic started the season 6-18 from 3 in his first 8 games. Since then he's 41-85 for 48%. He's never shot over 40% from the season so it's kind of a stretch to think he'll remain like this for long. That is blistering hot though.

Leuer is only a year younger than Anderson but with a better injury history by far and much less mileage on his legs. He's shooting 43% from 3, and averaging 8 & 5 in just 19 minutes. More importantly he passes the ball. He's definitely a rotation player and at this point I'm ok with playing him and Mirza as our PFs for the season.