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All Things Ayton
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"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.
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- specialsauce
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Same old excuses baby, gotta love em
He can’t get an expanded offensive role because he sucks and every coach and player knows he’s nothing but a junkyard dog on offense
He can’t get an expanded offensive role because he sucks and every coach and player knows he’s nothing but a junkyard dog on offense
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100%
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Not even on a team with low expectations and developing young players can he lead in scoring…. Best move we ever made ridding ourselves of that joke.specialsauce wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:35 pmSame old excuses baby, gotta love em
He can’t get an expanded offensive role because he sucks and every coach and player knows he’s nothing but a junkyard dog on offense
- MightyMoog
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#FireMonty, er, I mean, #FireChauncey!!!JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:16 pmHow can he get assists if the ball doesn't go through him? He has shown some great passing this season, and some much improved dribble moves. He just needs that "expanded offensive role" from what he had in Phoenix that Chauncey promised. So far it hasn't materialized. As for the PG, DA and Scoot were starting to develop some great chemistry before Scoot's injury.
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How can he dribble if those pesky defenders keep trying to take the ball away? How can he get to the FT line if those mean refs won't blow their whistles?JeremyG wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:16 pmHow can he get assists if the ball doesn't go through him? He has shown some great passing this season, and some much improved dribble moves. He just needs that "expanded offensive role" from what he had in Phoenix that Chauncey promised. So far it hasn't materialized. As for the PG, DA and Scoot were starting to develop some great chemistry before Scoot's injury.
He took 9 shots and had 3 turnovers. Seems like he touched it enough to generate a single assist.
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I guess there are others also interested in how Ayton is doing in his new environment:
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
"Be Legendary."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
"Be Legendary."
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Probably the guy we should have taken if we weren't going to take Donic:
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
"Be Legendary."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
"Be Legendary."
- Drewsprocket
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Sigh. I hate to admit it. Everyone wanted a skilled big man to give Book as a duo. I went through so many phases in Ayton’s first few years before concluding my present with him opinion of him. I had hoped he become like a Tim Duncan or Lamarcus Aldridge type. Ayton just never developed the dynamic offensive tools or competition. Now that this guy is coming into his own he is an ultimate shot blocker and stretch big.
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- Drewsprocket
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Not for a max player.
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Even if you consider it a "bad game" my point still stands. People like Gerald are only "interested" when he has a bad game.
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.
- Drewsprocket
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Yeah I’m happy if he contributes to a win but enjoy not idealizing him ever again. It’s not hard to validate people’s disappointment with Ayton. There was a strong likelihood that after his payday he’d go back to his inconsistent ways. You can’t keep explaining it away. He may not have caused all of his challenges in his career but he is responsible for his play and response at the end of the day. I think he’ll be an enjoyable player knowing he isn’t a max sort of guy.JeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:23 pmEven if you consider it a "bad game" my point still stands. People like Gerald are only "interested" when he has a bad game.
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Even as a mid tier paid guy, he would be frustrating. So much wasted potential. But yeah, he wasn’t close to a max-type player. At least at mid tier, it would be much more bearable. It’s got to be much better for Blazers fans since he wasn’t their first #1 overall pick. As a middle of the road guy that you know is not the aggressive type as far as forcing contact, he’s fine. I think Portland will be a much better experience for him as a lot of the pressure is off now. I know that Jeremy will never let it go but it was a win-win for the Ayton and the Suns. Both are better off.
It would have been cool to see what Vogel would have done with him but he still would never live up to his contract and the frustrations would have still been there. It will be interesting to see if this ever dies out. It’s not like Joe Johnson or going all the way back to Dennis Johnson where we knew they were great players worth their salaries that we lost.
It would have been cool to see what Vogel would have done with him but he still would never live up to his contract and the frustrations would have still been there. It will be interesting to see if this ever dies out. It’s not like Joe Johnson or going all the way back to Dennis Johnson where we knew they were great players worth their salaries that we lost.
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
"Be Legendary."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
"Be Legendary."
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He’s been mentioned before but I think the best comp for Ayton is Joe Barry Carroll who is before many of your times. He was a #1 overall that put up nice numbers but never lived up to his expectations.
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
"Be Legendary."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
"Be Legendary."
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It’s not just us. Many (most?) Suns fans feel the same way.
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
"Be Legendary."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.
"Be Legendary."
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You’re not wrong Jeremy…I didn’t watch…I am curious about the finish though.. what are your thoughts on what happened there?
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Again, you’re not wrong, but it goes both ways. Ayton stans get loud when he’s good and the haters get loud when he’s bad. People just like to be rightJeremyG wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:23 pmEven if you consider it a "bad game" my point still stands. People like Gerald are only "interested" when he has a bad game.
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Does anybody here actually miss Ayton? Our center rotation has been just fine, at half the price.