Re: Predict 2019-20 Suns # of wins
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:40 am
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I am thinking it will be low 40s. We might even have a .500 team make it this year. We keep talking about how we expect the Suns to win at least 12-15 more games, and that the other less-teams in the West got better while a few at the top didn't. Should make for a very interesting push after the all-star break.
The Suns average # Wins from 1968-2010: 45.5 (Including the lockout year)--Win %=.56%In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:40 pmI'm curious why being pessimistic about the prospects of a team is being realistic? When did pessimism become synonymous with realism?
Maybe it always has been. It's weird that we can call the prognosticators realists if they say the '04-'05 Suns winning only 35 games tops and are outlandish dreamers smoking something if they come with an optimistic view of 50 wins.
I understand that and those %s. I've been a Suns fan for a long time, but that has nothing to do with my post, which pertains to general feelings, not specifically.jonh wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:46 amThe Suns average # Wins from 1968-2010: 45.5 (Including the lockout year)--Win %=.56%In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:40 pmI'm curious why being pessimistic about the prospects of a team is being realistic? When did pessimism become synonymous with realism?
Maybe it always has been. It's weird that we can call the prognosticators realists if they say the '04-'05 Suns winning only 35 games tops and are outlandish dreamers smoking something if they come with an optimistic view of 50 wins.
The Suns average # Wins from 2010-2019: 30.2--Win %=.38% (constitutes 738 games)
This is either a sign of the coming apocalypse or a sign that things are actually changing for the better. This is the most positive post I've seen from Worm in like 10 yrs.Wormwood wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:38 amIf Baynes can keep hitting 3's at a high percentage, and continues to be a solid defender and rebounder, he's going to have a much better RPM than Ayton potentially. Floor spacing centers who play great defense (Baynes was 18th out of 70 centers in defensive RPM) are worth their weight in gold. I suspect he's going to get way more minutes than we anticipated (probably close to 20 mpg) if he keeps shooting well.
I apologize for being flippant--there have been several offseasons where I have optimistically believed the team was better than the previous year, but then the season shows that my optimistic view of the team wasn't accurate. I think fans support their team as best they can, but also try to temper their own expectations, so November and December is not filled with disappointment.In2ition wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:45 amI understand that and those %s. I've been a Suns fan for a long time, but that has nothing to do with my post, which pertains to general feelings, not specifically.jonh wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:46 amThe Suns average # Wins from 1968-2010: 45.5 (Including the lockout year)--Win %=.56%In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:40 pmI'm curious why being pessimistic about the prospects of a team is being realistic? When did pessimism become synonymous with realism?
Maybe it always has been. It's weird that we can call the prognosticators realists if they say the '04-'05 Suns winning only 35 games tops and are outlandish dreamers smoking something if they come with an optimistic view of 50 wins.
The Suns average # Wins from 2010-2019: 30.2--Win %=.38% (constitutes 738 games)
At the end of the season, if we win about 30 games, are you going to say that "the season was a complete disaster because a lot of things went very wrong," and call yourself an optimist?In2ition wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:40 pmI'm curious why being pessimistic about the prospects of a team is being realistic? When did pessimism become synonymous with realism?
Maybe it always has been. It's weird that we can call the prognosticators realists if they say the '04-'05 Suns winning only 35 games tops and are outlandish dreamers smoking something if they come with an optimistic view of 50 wins.
I hate to be a dick about it, but I hate it even more when people start throwing around the optimist and pessimist labels to dismiss each other's point of view.