SUNS 2014: Free Agency

[Shabazz]

Swing's brain just exploded.

[Ring_Wanted]

I'm sorry. I am a Frye supporter but 8M per is beyond ridiculous. The partial guarantee helps but there's no way you can point at his defense and 'rebounding' as factors that balance out that money. You just can't. And if that's what Frye can command in the open market, he should just take it and run. I find much more probable that this guy has no idea what he is talking about, or at least I hope so.

[TOO]

8m for Frye?! GTFO. I'd quit watching the NBA.

[In2ition]

7. Eric Bledsoe | PG | RFA
2013-14 Team: Phoenix Suns
2013-14 Salary: $2.6 million
Suggested AAV: $11.5 million/year, four years
Like Monroe, Bledsoe is a restricted free agent who is going to benefit from a lack of free-agent options at his position (his main competition is Kyle Lowry and Isaiah Thomas). One thing that will weigh on the Suns' mind in any offer is trying to remain flexible for future free-agency markets and inadvertently setting the market for point guards, since fellow Suns guard Goran Dragic has an opt out in 2015. Going by comp deals like Stephen Curry, Ty Lawson and Jrue Holiday, Bledsoe's $46 million over four years keeps him in line with the best young point guards in the game, although not quite max.

[Ring_Wanted]

I'd rather overpay Parsons at 10mil than overpay Hayward 13.

I'd also pay Hayward 10M vs Parson at 13M. But At the same price I'd go with Hayward. In my opinion he has more of a creator edge than Parsons and I value that a lot.

[In2ition]

Here are some other Suns related/linked FAs
8. Pau Gasol | F/C | UFA
2013-14 Team: Los Angeles Lakers
2013-14 Salary: $19.3 million
Suggested AAV: $11.3 million/year, three years, non-guaranteed third year
He's not elite anymore, but Gasol still is a high-level defensive rebounder and effective scorer in the post with a reliable midrange jumper. More importantly, he's a high basketball IQ player and excellent passer from either block, and has the championship DNA to help a team competing for a title. He can barely move on defense, but if you can mask his flaws he can be extremely valuable.

[In2ition]

10. Gordon Hayward | SF | RFA
2013-14 Team: Utah Jazz
2013-14 Salary: $3.5 million
Suggested AAV: $10.0 million/year, four years
Hayward bears similarity to Parsons in style of play, but did not benefit from the high-level help that Parsons did. He's the better player, but struggled mightily in his contract year. It will take a massive deal to get Utah not to match, but Hayward's at the $10 million AAV mark as well; wings are inherently easier to replace than point guards and bigs, so overspending on less than elite talent at this position is unwise.

[In2ition]

12. Marcin Gortat | C | UFA
2013-14 Team: Washington Wizards
2013-14 Salary: $7.7 million
Suggested AAV: $9.0 million/year, four years
Gortat did everything he was supposed to do in a contract year: stayed healthy, shot efficiently at the rim, protected the defensive glass. He's a nice finisher with either hand in pick-and-rolls, and a decent team defender. Using Tiago Splitter as a comp, Gortat gets a nice $36 million over four years, giving him the long-term security he seeks without needlessly overpaying him.

[In2ition]

17. Trevor Ariza | SF | UFA
2013-14 Team: Washington Wizards
2013-14 Salary: $7.7 million
Suggested AAV: $5.7 million/year, four years
Ariza kicks off a string of full midlevel exception caliber players: vets who can fill a role immediately, but aren't necessarily cornerstones or building blocks. Ariza is one of the premier so-called "3 & D" specialists in the league, and he embraced that role last year in Washington. Because of their success last year, the Wizards will be inclined to overpay to keep him, but the fact is you shouldn't pay him to do more than defend and shoot 3's because he can't do much more than that.

[In2ition]

26. P.J. Tucker | SF | RFA
2013-14 Team: Phoenix Suns
Salary: $884,293
Suggested AAV: $4.0 million/year, three years, non-guaranteed third year
Tucker emerged as a high-level defensive wing, and the addition of a reliable corner 3-point shot makes him more valuable. His restricted free agency coupled with Phoenix's grand free-agency plans means he'll be an easier target to extract with a competitive enough offer. At the same time, his advanced age necessitates not getting attached to a long-term deal.

[Ring_Wanted]

7. Eric Bledsoe | PG | RFA
2013-14 Team: Phoenix Suns
2013-14 Salary: $2.6 million
Suggested AAV: $11.5 million/year, four years
Like Monroe, Bledsoe is a restricted free agent who is going to benefit from a lack of free-agent options at his position (his main competition is Kyle Lowry and Isaiah Thomas). One thing that will weigh on the Suns' mind in any offer is trying to remain flexible for future free-agency markets and inadvertently setting the market for point guards, since fellow Suns guard Goran Dragic has an opt out in 2015. Going by comp deals like Stephen Curry, Ty Lawson and Jrue Holiday, Bledsoe's $46 million over four years keeps him in line with the best young point guards in the game, although not quite max.

All things considered 11.5M sounds palatable, but precissely because of that, if you are another team you have to put more on the table to scare the Suns. Just consider that such contract would start under 10M. Also, those PGs he mentions got those 'bargain' contracts because they were extended before they hit RFA.

[Ring_Wanted]

26. P.J. Tucker | SF | RFA
2013-14 Team: Phoenix Suns
Salary: $884,293
Suggested AAV: $4.0 million/year, three years, non-guaranteed third year
Tucker emerged as a high-level defensive wing, and the addition of a reliable corner 3-point shot makes him more valuable. His restricted free agency coupled with Phoenix's grand free-agency plans means he'll be an easier target to extract with a competitive enough offer. At the same time, his advanced age necessitates not getting attached to a long-term deal.

Sounds good too but I don't think he'd agree to that kind of third year. Maybe if it was the fourth.

[Ring_Wanted]

And I think Hayward, Gortat and Ariza end up making more than 10, 9 and 5.7M respectively, unless the latter two ended up on a real contender.

Also, Pau may have the cache to command 11M+ but I wouldn't do it unless my salary cap landscape was already set for the next three seasons.

[Aztec Sunsfan]

Leave the SOB in his vacuum-sealed bubble - there's plenty who live in the real world that'd dig playing here as opposed to having people jerk-off their ego.

I'm for standing pat & taking care of our own.....

So you'd rather lose than have the best player in the world play for your team?

What is it about 45 years of not winning a championship that makes some Suns fans want more of that same abuse?

The Spurs already won, and in a convincing way, despite not having the best player in the world playing for their team, so I think we have a wider menú to choose from, besides "Lebron or Lose".

[TOO]

I'd pay the extra 1.7 to get Ariza over Tucker. Better finisher/defender

[Ring_Wanted]

I'd pay the extra 1.7 to get Ariza over Tucker. Better finisher/defender

Agree, but I don't think we'll have to worry about this.

[SwingMan]

Leave the SOB in his vacuum-sealed bubble - there's plenty who live in the real world that'd dig playing here as opposed to having people jerk-off their ego.

I'm for standing pat & taking care of our own.....

So you'd rather lose than have the best player in the world play for your team?

What is it about 45 years of not winning a championship that makes some Suns fans want more of that same abuse?

If the SOB doesn't have the balls to met me face-to-face, yes - I'll stand pat "losing" at 48-34.

[SwingMan]

Swing's brain just exploded.

Getting pretty high with half-stories, are you?

[Shabazz]

Swing's brain just exploded.

Getting pretty high with half-stories, are you?

Huh? That was in response to paying Frye $8M/year.

[Aztec Sunsfan]

I already predicted that Frye in way was opting out seeking for a contract under 5mill per year, but 8mill would be ridicoulous. And the Suns would be nuts to offer him something along that much.

I like the guy, but I think he is as good as gone, someone is going to throw at least 6.5 on his way, and I hope the Suns stay away from amounts above 6, regarding Frye, unless we get Lebron. Other wise, we are years away from contention and therefore in need of overpaying specialists.