Suns News: Week 16 (1/30 - 2/5)

[Mori Chu]

If OG gets injured a lot, what's he going to do when he has WebMD taking care of him here?

[O_Gardino]

I don't trust Anunoby's health. He misses a lot of games. I'd take him for Crowder, sure. But not for Cam J and picks. Is he a better defender than Cam? Absolutely. Is he so much better that we can afford to lose what Cam gives us on offense? I don't think so.

[Kryptonic]

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Attaboy Kal! More like Kal-El (Superman)!

[carey]

His stock is a little low due to injuries the past couple seasons, but buy low, right?

3 first round picks is buying low? That’s what NY paid for Carmelo in his prime.

[In2ition]

Sam Vecenie on OG

Vecenie is way too high on him.

If you can get OG for expirings plus 3 late first round picks, you have to do that. Odds of you getting a top 10 NBA defender who can guard 4-5 positions who also shoots very well from three with one of those picks in the 20-30 range is low. He'd represents a better long term solution (OG is only 25) at PF than Cam Johnson, who isn't nearly the defender. In terms of defensive RPM, OG is on a par with Mikal. His stock is a little low due to injuries the past couple seasons, but buy low, right?

OG offers a different dimension than CamJ. He can hold his own against the weight and strength of bigger PFs, some centers and someone like Doncic that tries to bully everyone on switches. CamJ was abused quite a bit by Luka, but he doesn't offer nearly as much on the offensive end.

[Wally_West]

Ayton, 3 1st for Siakim


Or

Ayton and Cam Payne 2 1st for FVV and OG

Then use Jae in 3 way trade to try and get Poeltl

CP-Book-Mikal-OG-Poeltl
FVV-Lee-Cam-Biz

Or

CP-Book-Mikal-Siakim-Poeltl.

[INFORMER]

I think we're at the point where Bridges contract is not a fair place marker. He's already met the production and development level to merit the contract value, and we're approaching it being on the best value contracts in the league.

I think that is only true while he is in the midst of his best streak of games of his career. This wasn't true a month ago. This wasn't true last year in the playoffs. If Scrimmage Bridges is here to stay, then I think we can arrive at your evaluation. But until then, taking last season and all of this season into account, he has been a valuable but expensive role player.

[INFORMER]

I don't think blowing all your draft assets is buying low, just my opinion of course.

Exactly. Does anyone watch the Suns and think, "man, we're just one elite perimeter defender away from winning it all"?

Why are we throwing all of our assets at a non-star who isn't even a gifted scorer?

[virtual9mm]

Ayton, 3 1st for Siakim


Or

Ayton and Cam Payne 2 1st for FVV and OG

Then use Jae in 3 way trade to try and get Poeltl

CP-Book-Mikal-OG-Poeltl
FVV-Lee-Cam-Biz

Or

CP-Book-Mikal-Siakim-Poeltl.

Gotta be honest -- these are some terrible trades. Ayton AND 3 first rounders???

[virtual9mm]

I think we're at the point where Bridges contract is not a fair place marker. He's already met the production and development level to merit the contract value, and we're approaching it being on the best value contracts in the league.

I think that is only true while he is in the midst of his best streak of games of his career. This wasn't true a month ago. This wasn't true last year in the playoffs. If Scrimmage Bridges is here to stay, then I think we can arrive at your evaluation. But until then, taking last season and all of this season into account, he has been a valuable but expensive role player.

Curious if you think Bridges' offensive development is for real.

[INFORMER]

Ayton, 3 1st for Siakim

That is a gross overpay. Siakim is not 3 1st round picks better than Ayton. That offer basically makes Ayton a throw-in.

You're only getting Siakim under contract for one year after this one, but you're giving up draft picks all the way to 2027?!

I like Siakim, and he fits what the Suns do, but the Suns would be foolish to give up everything for him.

[Drewsprocket]

Ayton, 3 1st for Siakim

That is a gross overpay. Siakim is not 3 1st round picks better than Ayton. That offer basically makes Ayton a throw-in.

You're only getting Siakim under contract for one year after this one, but you're giving up draft picks all the way to 2027?!

I like Siakim, and he fits what the Suns do, but the Suns would be foolish to give up everything for him.

If I am sending out three 1sts, then I am keeping Ayton and sending back salary filler and perhaps Cam Johnson if they throw someone back. End of my fantasy trade.

[ShelC]

[specialsauce]

Ayton, 3 1st for Siakim

That is a gross overpay. Siakim is not 3 1st round picks better than Ayton. That offer basically makes Ayton a throw-in.

You're only getting Siakim under contract for one year after this one, but you're giving up draft picks all the way to 2027?!

I like Siakim, and he fits what the Suns do, but the Suns would be foolish to give up everything for him.

Hell no 3 1sts. I’d give up Salary filler and 2 1sts for Siakam, or DA and a single first and a swap for him.

And OG is getting no more than a single first, and I don’t want to trade CamJ or any of our top 5 for him

[specialsauce]

I don't think blowing all your draft assets is buying low, just my opinion of course.

Exactly. Does anyone watch the Suns and think, "man, we're just one elite perimeter defender away from winning it all"?

Why are we throwing all of our assets at a non-star who isn't even a gifted scorer?

Makes zero sense. He’d be a luxury to this current group and we’d still have all the same holes, and that’s if we don’t send anyone significant back

[Kryptonic]

Ayton, 3 1st for Siakim

That is a gross overpay. Siakim is not 3 1st round picks better than Ayton. That offer basically makes Ayton a throw-in.

You're only getting Siakim under contract for one year after this one, but you're giving up draft picks all the way to 2027?!

I like Siakim, and he fits what the Suns do, but the Suns would be foolish to give up everything for him.

Hell no 3 1sts. I’d give up Salary filler and 2 1sts for Siakam, or DA and a single first and a swap for him.

And OG is getting no more than a single first, and I don’t want to trade CamJ or any of our top 5 for him

Not to mention... What happens again when our PG's go down? We need an answer to that problem too

[carey]

If the Knicks are looking to shake things up and add OG I wonder if they'd be interested in Ayton? I'm sure DA would waive his no trade to go there. I'd want Mitchell Robinson (he'll be back active from thumb surgery in about a week) and other players but I am not sure what. Toppin? I think CP would make Robinson a beast. Robinson, Toppin and Cam Reddish? We'd have a full season to see what Toppin can do away from NY.

Paul-Payne
Booker-Lee
Bridges-Reddish
Cam J.-Toppin
Robinson-B.B.

[Split T]

I wouldn’t give up 3 1sts for OG…but I’d do it for Siakam

[Split T]

I think we're at the point where Bridges contract is not a fair place marker. He's already met the production and development level to merit the contract value, and we're approaching it being on the best value contracts in the league.

I think that is only true while he is in the midst of his best streak of games of his career. This wasn't true a month ago. This wasn't true last year in the playoffs. If Scrimmage Bridges is here to stay, then I think we can arrive at your evaluation. But until then, taking last season and all of this season into account, he has been a valuable but expensive role player.

You don’t think his play before this last month is worth his salary? Or just that he wasn’t a value contract? To me I think he showed he was worth 20 million a year before and if he keeps up his current play, he’s a steal at 20 million.

[TOO]

Ayton, 3 1st for Siakim

That is a gross overpay. Siakim is not 3 1st round picks better than Ayton. That offer basically makes Ayton a throw-in.

You're only getting Siakim under contract for one year after this one, but you're giving up draft picks all the way to 2027?!

I like Siakim, and he fits what the Suns do, but the Suns would be foolish to give up everything for him.

The Ainge trades has made everyone lose their damn minds man. All of a sudden first rounders are just sweeteners? Wtf is happening