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Just like they threw away Bol Bol's career night. That's the problem with a bunch of guys that don't give a fuck on the court. You'll get one or two every night that try to carry the team while everyone else plays half assed sloppy basketball on both ends of the court. Embarrassing.
Same here, he either turns the ball over with a lazy pass or waits for the double team and gets trapped.specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:12 amI'm so tired of KD being on ball. He's awful.
I want him in actions for a quick drive or J. Getting it at the 3 point line is a disaster
I'd sooner get rid of Jones than Vogel at this point. Yes, he's landed us KD and Beal but he's made some pretty bad roster moves outside of that and forsaken our future for it. Vogel hasn't been as effective as I hoped he'd be but I do think he's been dealt a bad hand with the injuries and poor roster construction.The Bobster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:18 pmI think roster construction is their biggest problem, but I don't think Vogel has done a very good job either.
Which leads to the question - Who does Ishba replace first - the GM he inherited from Sarver or the coach hired with his approval?
I don't see either one of them as the answer for this team being a title contender.
This. Been in this train for quite awhile, I just don't see how you can keep either of them.The Bobster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:18 pmI think roster construction is their biggest problem, but I don't think Vogel has done a very good job either.
Which leads to the question - Who does Ishba replace first - the GM he inherited from Sarver or the coach hired with his approval?
I don't see either one of them as the answer for this team being a title contender.
You see the difference between how Booker handles these doubles and how KD does. As soon as Booker sees it coming he either attacks or gets rid of the ball, which should set up an advantage. KD has been allowing the double to come and then trying to beat it off the dribble or with a panicked pass. He’s an all-timer who is acting like he’s seeing these coverages for the first time.SunsSince92 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:11 amSame here, he either turns the ball over with a lazy pass or waits for the double team and gets trapped.specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:12 amI'm so tired of KD being on ball. He's awful.
I want him in actions for a quick drive or J. Getting it at the 3 point line is a disaster
That would be smart.Bucktastic365 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 3:39 am
I wish they would make KD the last resort; the "emergency" option at the end of the clock.
Get the other players used to actually running plays
And what about those league worst 4th quarters? Hopefully, Booker plays the entire 4th in the playoffs. You would think the Suns would adjust during the regular season, but no!ShelC wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 5:28 amSame shit, different game. Congrats to Nurk on 30 boards. Playoffs are about matchups and he could be a difference maker in a playoff series, especially against a team like OKC that doesn't have much size on the interior. On paper I'm not as scared of them in a series, but we just can't get out of our own way on the court. We need to find a way to keep KD off the ball and counter those doubles. Not sure why Thad is getting DNPs when he was supposed to be a key pickup for us in the frontcourt.
Well, apparently Fizdale did get fired up and got the team to wake up and take the lead before they remembered it was the 4th quarter so they were obligated to play horribly. But Ishbia is paying WAY too much for this coaching staff for the team to look like this night after night.AmareIsGod wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 8:49 amVogel isn't the answer. Unfortunately, the rest of the coaching staff look like they're hanging out for the ride. Nobody seems to get fired up from Vogel through the assistants and our players carry the same demeanor on the court. Such a limp dick team out there every night.
Yeah, I love how KD waits until it's way too late and he is swarmed. NOT!wpmiller42 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:23 amI'm surprised we don't run more "point-Nurkic" kind of sets when we only have 2 of the 3 available between Book, KD, and Beal. It's harder to double team away from the ball, and if they tried to double Nurkic or send a guard out on him, I think he would be savvy enough and tall enough to easily see where the mismatch or open man is.
And for as much grief as Book gets for being double-teamed, he's way better than KD at handling it.
I had high hopes for Vogel but he sure hasn't shown me much.The Bobster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:18 pmI think roster construction is their biggest problem, but I don't think Vogel has done a very good job either.
Which leads to the question - Who does Ishba replace first - the GM he inherited from Sarver or the coach hired with his approval?
I don't see either one of them as the answer for this team being a title contender.
Honest question, why?Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:25 pmI had high hopes for Vogel but he sure hasn't shown me much.The Bobster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:18 pmI think roster construction is their biggest problem, but I don't think Vogel has done a very good job either.
Which leads to the question - Who does Ishba replace first - the GM he inherited from Sarver or the coach hired with his approval?
I don't see either one of them as the answer for this team being a title contender.
You'd have to ask Frank.TOO wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:42 pmHonest question, why?Superbone wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:25 pmI had high hopes for Vogel but he sure hasn't shown me much.The Bobster wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 12:18 pmI think roster construction is their biggest problem, but I don't think Vogel has done a very good job either.
Which leads to the question - Who does Ishba replace first - the GM he inherited from Sarver or the coach hired with his approval?
I don't see either one of them as the answer for this team being a title contender.