2023-24 Suns Media Day - Oct 2nd

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JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:17 am
TOO wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:17 pm
Nodack wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:15 pm
Is there a way to block posts containing certain words? Like for instance I didn’t want to see cuss words and block posts with the F word in it? I don’t care about cussing. I want to block the word Ayton. He was traded and isn’t coming back. Nurkic is our Center now. Jeremy, are you going to spend the entire year bashing Nurkic out of spite? That’s going to get old real fast.
200%.
But 5 years of constant bashing of our center by 90% of the forum did not get old?
When it felt like he brought it 50% of the time, it was clearly justified. There are guys that love the game and love to compete. There are guys that have the physical gifts to play but think of it as a way to get paid and have fun. Ayton was clearly the latter. The fact that you don't get it just like he never got it speaks volumes as to why you're constantly aligned to him.
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AmareIsGod wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:42 am
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:17 am
TOO wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:17 pm
Nodack wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:15 pm
Is there a way to block posts containing certain words? Like for instance I didn’t want to see cuss words and block posts with the F word in it? I don’t care about cussing. I want to block the word Ayton. He was traded and isn’t coming back. Nurkic is our Center now. Jeremy, are you going to spend the entire year bashing Nurkic out of spite? That’s going to get old real fast.
200%.
But 5 years of constant bashing of our center by 90% of the forum did not get old?
When it felt like he brought it 50% of the time, it was clearly justified. There are guys that love the game and love to compete. There are guys that have the physical gifts to play but think of it as a way to get paid and have fun. Ayton was clearly the latter. The fact that you don't get it just like he never got it speaks volumes as to why you're constantly aligned to him.
Yea... When it's constant defense and NEVER agreeing with ANY of the criticism you have to scratch your head.

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I got sick and tired of him calling himself Dominayton. When he wouldn't dominate shit most nights. Imagine being his teammate watching him play Charmin soft regularly and say shit like that. Especially guys like Booker and KD that fucking eat, sleep and shit basketball.

Jeremy thinks Ayton was dominant so what do any of us expect. Of course he's going to praise him like the 2nd coming and take issue with us criticizing Ayton and his maddening effort. His self perceived dominance and Tesla motor effort that never stops.

It was never that difficult. All we ever wanted was for him to grow the fuck up, be a man and play with consistent effort every night.
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Re: 2023-24 Suns Media Day - Oct 2nd

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Superbone wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:18 am
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:07 am
Nodack wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:15 pm
Is there a way to block posts containing certain words? Like for instance I didn’t want to see cuss words and block posts with the F word in it? I don’t care about cussing. I want to block the word Ayton.
Funny how I didn't mention him and you did.
Nodack wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:15 pm
He was traded and isn’t coming back. Nurkic is our Center now. Jeremy, are you going to spend the entire year bashing Nurkic out of spite? That’s going to get old real fast.
It would only be fair. But don't worry, I'm not the type to spend 5 years hating on a player, just because he doesn't play the way I want him to.
Oh, cool. Then we shouldn't hear a peep about it.
Am I not allowed to post about the overrating of Nurkic's passing game? It's getting to be silly, with people calling him our point guard, as if he's Jokic or Draymond, when he has a career average of 2.3 assists per game. I'm just saying people are going to be disappointed if they are expecting more from him than he is going to provide.
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I expect him to hand out between 3-4 assists per game consistently, while not fumbling every pass to him. That's my expectations.
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JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:07 am
Nodack wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:15 pm
Is there a way to block posts containing certain words? Like for instance I didn’t want to see cuss words and block posts with the F word in it? I don’t care about cussing. I want to block the word Ayton.
Funny how I didn't mention him and you did.
Nodack wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:15 pm
He was traded and isn’t coming back. Nurkic is our Center now. Jeremy, are you going to spend the entire year bashing Nurkic out of spite? That’s going to get old real fast.
It would only be fair. But don't worry, I'm not the type to spend 5 years hating on a player, just because he doesn't play the way I want him to.
You didn’t mention him? You mention him all day every day. It’s the only thing you talk about it seems. You are clearly obsessed with Ayton and don’t seem to realize it. I am ok with that as long as you don’t pollute every single thread with it. I am looking forward to this years team who should make a serious run for the Championship and if I have to will block you to avoid being annoyed all yearI will.

Ayton wanted to be a scorer and the man and that was never going to happen here. He now plays for Portland who is ranked #30 out of 30 teams. He will have a whole lot of opportunity to be the man and no doubt will score more points and have better stats than Nurkic.

Ayton salary- 2022-23 $30,913,750
Nukic salary - 2022-23 $15,625,000

Which team will win more games? I have a good idea. How about a compromise? Make a thread where you can dedicate yourself to promoting Ayton and attacking Nurkic. You can post away to your hearts desire and I or anyone else that doesn’t want to participate can just avoid the thread altogether.

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Great idea... but would never happen.

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It sucks. We have to deal with this Ayton shit every thread now. We get excited about the team, about the abilities of Nurkic and it gets twisted into "but he's not that good at 'x', no better than Ayton who we all slandered for years". Just shut up and let us talk about THIS team. I'm about ready to just stick to Reddit and X for Suns convo.
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JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:47 am
Superbone wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:18 am
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:07 am
Nodack wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:15 pm
Is there a way to block posts containing certain words? Like for instance I didn’t want to see cuss words and block posts with the F word in it? I don’t care about cussing. I want to block the word Ayton.
Funny how I didn't mention him and you did.
Nodack wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:15 pm
He was traded and isn’t coming back. Nurkic is our Center now. Jeremy, are you going to spend the entire year bashing Nurkic out of spite? That’s going to get old real fast.
It would only be fair. But don't worry, I'm not the type to spend 5 years hating on a player, just because he doesn't play the way I want him to.
Oh, cool. Then we shouldn't hear a peep about it.
Am I not allowed to post about the overrating of Nurkic's passing game? It's getting to be silly, with people calling him our point guard, as if he's Jokic or Draymond, when he has a career average of 2.3 assists per game. I'm just saying people are going to be disappointed if they are expecting more from him than he is going to provide.
Him being point guard is obviously silly. And was a literal joke between him and Book. I expect decent passing from him. If you're going to take a joke as a literal expectation, I don't know what to tell you.
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Maybe Marty can make a new user group with a hidden forum... Used to do it with all my old gaming clans (yea.. I'm a nerd) and worked like a charm keeping the riff raff out.

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Re: 2023-24 Suns Media Day - Oct 2nd

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Superbone wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:06 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:47 am
Superbone wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:18 am
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:07 am
Nodack wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:15 pm
Is there a way to block posts containing certain words? Like for instance I didn’t want to see cuss words and block posts with the F word in it? I don’t care about cussing. I want to block the word Ayton.
Funny how I didn't mention him and you did.
Nodack wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:15 pm
He was traded and isn’t coming back. Nurkic is our Center now. Jeremy, are you going to spend the entire year bashing Nurkic out of spite? That’s going to get old real fast.
It would only be fair. But don't worry, I'm not the type to spend 5 years hating on a player, just because he doesn't play the way I want him to.
Oh, cool. Then we shouldn't hear a peep about it.
Am I not allowed to post about the overrating of Nurkic's passing game? It's getting to be silly, with people calling him our point guard, as if he's Jokic or Draymond, when he has a career average of 2.3 assists per game. I'm just saying people are going to be disappointed if they are expecting more from him than he is going to provide.
Him being point guard is obviously silly. And was a literal joke between him and Book. I expect decent passing from him. If you're going to take a joke as a literal expectation, I don't know what to tell you.
I'm not talking about Booker making a joke. I'm referring to fans who are seriously discussing it and stuff like this feature article on ArizonaSports:

No point to it: Suns see Jusuf Nurkic, pace replacing traditional lead guard
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.

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Re: 2023-24 Suns Media Day - Oct 2nd

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Nodack wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:57 am
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:07 am
Nodack wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:15 pm
Is there a way to block posts containing certain words? Like for instance I didn’t want to see cuss words and block posts with the F word in it? I don’t care about cussing. I want to block the word Ayton.
Funny how I didn't mention him and you did.
Nodack wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:15 pm
He was traded and isn’t coming back. Nurkic is our Center now. Jeremy, are you going to spend the entire year bashing Nurkic out of spite? That’s going to get old real fast.
It would only be fair. But don't worry, I'm not the type to spend 5 years hating on a player, just because he doesn't play the way I want him to.
You didn’t mention him? You mention him all day every day. It’s the only thing you talk about it seems. You are clearly obsessed with Ayton and don’t seem to realize it. I am ok with that as long as you don’t pollute every single thread with it. I am looking forward to this years team who should make a serious run for the Championship and if I have to will block you to avoid being annoyed all yearI will.

Ayton wanted to be a scorer and the man and that was never going to happen here. He now plays for Portland who is ranked #30 out of 30 teams. He will have a whole lot of opportunity to be the man and no doubt will score more points and have better stats than Nurkic.

Ayton salary- 2022-23 $30,913,750
Nukic salary - 2022-23 $15,625,000

Which team will win more games? I have a good idea. How about a compromise? Make a thread where you can dedicate yourself to promoting Ayton and attacking Nurkic. You can post away to your hearts desire and I or anyone else that doesn’t want to participate can just avoid the thread altogether.
AmareIsGod wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:03 pm
It sucks. We have to deal with this Ayton shit every thread now. We get excited about the team, about the abilities of Nurkic and it gets twisted into "but he's not that good at 'x', no better than Ayton who we all slandered for years". Just shut up and let us talk about THIS team. I'm about ready to just stick to Reddit and X for Suns convo.
I am not the one who brought Ayton into this thread. Go back and look.
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Re: 2023-24 Suns Media Day - Oct 2nd

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JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:10 pm
Superbone wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:06 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:47 am
Superbone wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:18 am
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:07 am


Funny how I didn't mention him and you did.



It would only be fair. But don't worry, I'm not the type to spend 5 years hating on a player, just because he doesn't play the way I want him to.
Oh, cool. Then we shouldn't hear a peep about it.
Am I not allowed to post about the overrating of Nurkic's passing game? It's getting to be silly, with people calling him our point guard, as if he's Jokic or Draymond, when he has a career average of 2.3 assists per game. I'm just saying people are going to be disappointed if they are expecting more from him than he is going to provide.
Him being point guard is obviously silly. And was a literal joke between him and Book. I expect decent passing from him. If you're going to take a joke as a literal expectation, I don't know what to tell you.
I'm not talking about Booker making a joke. I'm referring to fans who are seriously discussing it and stuff like this feature article on ArizonaSports:

No point to it: Suns see Jusuf Nurkic, pace replacing traditional lead guard
Dammit man. Do we really have to explain things to you like you're 5? They see Nurkic and pace replacing a traditional lead PG. Not Nurkic is going to run point. Is your reading comprehension really that off? Do you really think any fan or writer thinks Nurkic will take the inbounds and dribble up the court, setting up the offense and playing traditional PG? Get real. This is just stupid.
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JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:12 pm
Nodack wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:57 am
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:07 am
Nodack wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:15 pm
Is there a way to block posts containing certain words? Like for instance I didn’t want to see cuss words and block posts with the F word in it? I don’t care about cussing. I want to block the word Ayton.
Funny how I didn't mention him and you did.
Nodack wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:15 pm
He was traded and isn’t coming back. Nurkic is our Center now. Jeremy, are you going to spend the entire year bashing Nurkic out of spite? That’s going to get old real fast.
It would only be fair. But don't worry, I'm not the type to spend 5 years hating on a player, just because he doesn't play the way I want him to.
You didn’t mention him? You mention him all day every day. It’s the only thing you talk about it seems. You are clearly obsessed with Ayton and don’t seem to realize it. I am ok with that as long as you don’t pollute every single thread with it. I am looking forward to this years team who should make a serious run for the Championship and if I have to will block you to avoid being annoyed all yearI will.

Ayton wanted to be a scorer and the man and that was never going to happen here. He now plays for Portland who is ranked #30 out of 30 teams. He will have a whole lot of opportunity to be the man and no doubt will score more points and have better stats than Nurkic.

Ayton salary- 2022-23 $30,913,750
Nukic salary - 2022-23 $15,625,000

Which team will win more games? I have a good idea. How about a compromise? Make a thread where you can dedicate yourself to promoting Ayton and attacking Nurkic. You can post away to your hearts desire and I or anyone else that doesn’t want to participate can just avoid the thread altogether.
AmareIsGod wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:03 pm
It sucks. We have to deal with this Ayton shit every thread now. We get excited about the team, about the abilities of Nurkic and it gets twisted into "but he's not that good at 'x', no better than Ayton who we all slandered for years". Just shut up and let us talk about THIS team. I'm about ready to just stick to Reddit and X for Suns convo.
I am not the one who brought Ayton into this thread. Go back and look.
Your Ayton radar went off and now we're dealing with bullshit in this thread. I'm DONE addressing you and your ridiculous takes.
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AmareIsGod wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:13 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:10 pm
Superbone wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:06 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:47 am
Superbone wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:18 am


Oh, cool. Then we shouldn't hear a peep about it.
Am I not allowed to post about the overrating of Nurkic's passing game? It's getting to be silly, with people calling him our point guard, as if he's Jokic or Draymond, when he has a career average of 2.3 assists per game. I'm just saying people are going to be disappointed if they are expecting more from him than he is going to provide.
Him being point guard is obviously silly. And was a literal joke between him and Book. I expect decent passing from him. If you're going to take a joke as a literal expectation, I don't know what to tell you.
I'm not talking about Booker making a joke. I'm referring to fans who are seriously discussing it and stuff like this feature article on ArizonaSports:

No point to it: Suns see Jusuf Nurkic, pace replacing traditional lead guard
Dammit man. Do we really have to explain things to you like you're 5? They see Nurkic and pace replacing a traditional lead PG. Not Nurkic is going to run point. Is your reading comprehension really that off? Do you really think any fan or writer thinks Nurkic will take the inbounds and dribble up the court, setting up the offense and playing traditional PG? Get real. This is just stupid.
Does Draymond do those things? No. I said Nurkic is being hyped up like he's Draymond, not a traditional PG. Is your reading comprehension really that off?
"I'm a Deandre Ayton guy."--Al McCoy, September 21, 2022.

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JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:17 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:13 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:10 pm
Superbone wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:06 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:47 am


Am I not allowed to post about the overrating of Nurkic's passing game? It's getting to be silly, with people calling him our point guard, as if he's Jokic or Draymond, when he has a career average of 2.3 assists per game. I'm just saying people are going to be disappointed if they are expecting more from him than he is going to provide.
Him being point guard is obviously silly. And was a literal joke between him and Book. I expect decent passing from him. If you're going to take a joke as a literal expectation, I don't know what to tell you.
I'm not talking about Booker making a joke. I'm referring to fans who are seriously discussing it and stuff like this feature article on ArizonaSports:

No point to it: Suns see Jusuf Nurkic, pace replacing traditional lead guard
Dammit man. Do we really have to explain things to you like you're 5? They see Nurkic and pace replacing a traditional lead PG. Not Nurkic is going to run point. Is your reading comprehension really that off? Do you really think any fan or writer thinks Nurkic will take the inbounds and dribble up the court, setting up the offense and playing traditional PG? Get real. This is just stupid.
Does Draymond do those things? No. I said Nurkic is being hyped up like he's Draymond, not a traditional PG. Is your reading comprehension really that off?
Who compared Nurk to Dray?

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Cap wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:21 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:17 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:13 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:10 pm
Superbone wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:06 pm


Him being point guard is obviously silly. And was a literal joke between him and Book. I expect decent passing from him. If you're going to take a joke as a literal expectation, I don't know what to tell you.
I'm not talking about Booker making a joke. I'm referring to fans who are seriously discussing it and stuff like this feature article on ArizonaSports:

No point to it: Suns see Jusuf Nurkic, pace replacing traditional lead guard
Dammit man. Do we really have to explain things to you like you're 5? They see Nurkic and pace replacing a traditional lead PG. Not Nurkic is going to run point. Is your reading comprehension really that off? Do you really think any fan or writer thinks Nurkic will take the inbounds and dribble up the court, setting up the offense and playing traditional PG? Get real. This is just stupid.
Does Draymond do those things? No. I said Nurkic is being hyped up like he's Draymond, not a traditional PG. Is your reading comprehension really that off?
Who compared Nurk to Dray?
They both have physiques I'd rather not see by a swimming pool. So they have more in common that people realize.
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AmareIsGod wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:23 pm
Cap wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:21 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:17 pm
AmareIsGod wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:13 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 12:10 pm


I'm not talking about Booker making a joke. I'm referring to fans who are seriously discussing it and stuff like this feature article on ArizonaSports:

No point to it: Suns see Jusuf Nurkic, pace replacing traditional lead guard
Dammit man. Do we really have to explain things to you like you're 5? They see Nurkic and pace replacing a traditional lead PG. Not Nurkic is going to run point. Is your reading comprehension really that off? Do you really think any fan or writer thinks Nurkic will take the inbounds and dribble up the court, setting up the offense and playing traditional PG? Get real. This is just stupid.
Does Draymond do those things? No. I said Nurkic is being hyped up like he's Draymond, not a traditional PG. Is your reading comprehension really that off?
Who compared Nurk to Dray?
They both have physiques I'd rather not see by a swimming pool. So they have more in common that people realize.
Lol. Truth.
I could care less how we regard Nurkic. We just know that he operates a lot out of the high post passing to cutters or diving into the lane for buckets. He’ll still probably get 10 shots a game, perhaps a couple low post shots, driving or diving into the lane, and a few 3 pt shots. Solid enough add wrinkles in the offense so it’s not just Beal, Book, and KD iso-ing. If he gets us 3 assists and 3 screen assists per game, that’s doing his part in the offense.
I hope Book has worked on his handles this summer, I’m a little nervous how he gets defended this season.

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JeremyG wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:17 am
TOO wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:17 pm
Nodack wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:15 pm
Is there a way to block posts containing certain words? Like for instance I didn’t want to see cuss words and block posts with the F word in it? I don’t care about cussing. I want to block the word Ayton. He was traded and isn’t coming back. Nurkic is our Center now. Jeremy, are you going to spend the entire year bashing Nurkic out of spite? That’s going to get old real fast.
200%.
But 5 years of constant bashing of our center by 90% of the forum did not get old?
Gotta let Nurkic play before you bash him. He'll get his fair share of hate as does everyone when they play poorly. It's just nobody sticks up for the other guys like you did for Ayton. Nobody is beyond criticism.

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No one thinks Nurkic is Jokic or Draymond. We’ve called him a bigger Saric…that’s where expectations are.

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