2023-24 Suns Training Camp - Starting Oct 3rd

[specialsauce]

Another trash ass video. Zoom the fuck in. Why does Beal have pants on?? Take that shit off.

???

Am I wrong?? The people want to see

[AmareIsGod]

We told you about leaving thirst traps for AIG…

Believe me. I thought about it! I hate to tempt the guy. Probably doesn't make his wife too happy.

I woke up in the middle of the night from a bad dream and now I'm dripping with sweat and can't sleep. Might need to wake up my wife to help put me to bed.

[Kryptonic]

Bahahaha…. You two need to get a room! Separately

[Carno]

Is it just me do all our Suns podcasts suck? They’re either meandering or are so superficial and vague.

The Timeline is fantastic. Every Suns fan should be listening to it weekly.

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You can get a 2nd podcast each week if you subscribe to their Patreon as well

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Book talking up his new center. Trigger warning. https://x.com/kellanolson/status/171029 ... 27342?s=46

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It’s been clear for awhile that Jones values bigs that are smart and skilled. I thought it was Monty(and maybe it was him too), but Jones has consistently been after skilled bigs(Saric, Kaminsky, Sabonis, Nurkic)

[Superbone]

Book talking up his new center. Trigger warning. https://x.com/kellanolson/status/171029 ... 27342?s=46

Pat Barf agrees:

https://www.basketballnetwork.net/lates ... cquisition

[ShelC]

It’s been clear for awhile that Jones values bigs that are smart and skilled. I thought it was Monty(and maybe it was him too), but Jones has consistently been after skilled bigs(Saric, Kaminsky, Sabonis, Nurkic)

Been thinking about this too and you can even add Baynes to the list that first season. It's not like we were running a different system when those guys were on the floor, they just opened up the offense to where it should've/could've been. Problem was they put us at a disadvantage defensively and were really backups. Hopefully we get the best of the offense with at least average level defense from Nurk.

[bajanguy008]

Just because of how I've judged him over the years
I'm taking the time to listen to most his interviews to change my perspective and dare I say even maybe like him smh lol

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Was thinking about which player having a breakout this year would be most beneficial to the team…I kinda eliminated the big 3, but obviously if one of them took a leap and became an MVP that would be huge.

I came to the conclusion that it would be Nassir Little. He’s got potential, he’s got size and athleticism to defend 1-4(and maybe 5), and maybe most importantly, he’s incredibly cheap and under team control the next 4 years. If he took a leap and say turned into OG Anunoby, that would be absolutely massive.

Obviously I’d love any of the vet min guys breaking out as well, but that probably means they leave next summer. Grayson Allen becoming JJ Reddick on offense would be nice. So would Nurkic turning into a healthy playmaking hub. Little seems like the guy to me though.

[Superbone]

Phoenix Suns preseason brings many stylistic changes to watch for

https://arizonasports.com/story/3535636 ... watch-for/

The 5th starter

All eyes will be drawn to the news trickling in on Sunday morning when it comes to the starting lineup, quickly scanning to see who the fifth name is.

I would urge you not to overreact to it.

'Like a jungle in there': Suns' length will be defensive strength
While it is possible head coach Frank Vogel finds a standout in training camp as his guy right away, the more likely outcome is he cycles through a few different options. The roster has a handful of players on a similar level in terms of the contributions they bring each night, so it’s going to come down to what Vogel wants as the skillset to accentuate Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, Kevin Durant and Jusuf Nurkic.

“Whichever guy we have in there, we want them to play to their skillset,” Vogel said Thursday.

If it’s on-ball defense, that’s your music, Josh Okogie. If a pinch of primary initiating is required plus that irritant on star ball-handlers, Jordan Goodwin come on down. How about avoiding a smaller lineup and going with a traditional small forward? That would be Keita Bates-Diop’s 3-and-D appeal. If Nassir Little’s impact in those categories is deemed better, he’s the man. And then there are more offensive-minded approaches like Grayson Allen, Eric Gordon and Yuta Watanabe.

Vogel indicated this mix and matching has been going on through the loads of 5-on-5 work the Suns have put in over the last three days.

“We haven’t really had five set guys out there,” he said. “We’ve looked at a lot of different combinations.”

I’m guessing it’s Okogie but we’ll see.

Two must go in roster spot battle

The Suns have 17 players in on standard contracts and must get that down two more spots before the regular season. Trading Deandre Ayton and Toumani Camara for four players created this issue.

It appears the Suns at least want to get a look at someone like Keon Johnson, a hyper-athletic guard who was a first-round pick just two years ago and was part of the return for Ayton, instead of addressing this problem instantly.

Who else is potentially on the chopping block?

Wainright’s non-guarantees in his contract do him no favors, although he seems like exactly the type of switchable, physical defender Vogel likes. Goodwin has to be mentioned because of his favorable contract situation toward making a move like this as well but Phoenix would be foolish to let him go after the promise he showed in Washington D.C. last year. Bol is the one guy on the roster who doesn’t make much sense as a fit despite the one-of-a-kind parts of his game. Maybe this group really impresses enough to put pressure on someone like Metu. That seems unlikely, though.

Just know the stakes for that group when they get in the game (or don’t).

[bajanguy008]

https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ ... 074884007/

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Was thinking about which player having a breakout this year would be most beneficial to the team…I kinda eliminated the big 3, but obviously if one of them took a leap and became an MVP that would be huge.

I came to the conclusion that it would be Nassir Little. He’s got potential, he’s got size and athleticism to defend 1-4(and maybe 5), and maybe most importantly, he’s incredibly cheap and under team control the next 4 years. If he took a leap and say turned into OG Anunoby, that would be absolutely massive.

Obviously I’d love any of the vet min guys breaking out as well, but that probably means they leave next summer. Grayson Allen becoming JJ Reddick on offense would be nice. So would Nurkic turning into a healthy playmaking hub. Little seems like the guy to me though.

I think for some of these guys we’re going to see non stars break out in smaller ways- Nurk with career blks or assists, Okogie with steals and deflections, KBD 3s made, fg %, or on the boards, etc. we have gaps that these guys will fill out the stat sheet as they make a difference. I really hope that KBD has a career year as a starter as I think it benefits the rest of the team the most to have great versatile defense, good rebounding, and excellent spacing.

[Flagrant Fowl]

Book talking up his new center. Trigger warning. https://x.com/kellanolson/status/171029 ... 27342?s=46

I’m sure he’s relieved to not have to constantly babysit his teammate on the court.

[Flagrant Fowl]

Was thinking about which player having a breakout this year would be most beneficial to the team…I kinda eliminated the big 3, but obviously if one of them took a leap and became an MVP that would be huge.

I came to the conclusion that it would be Nassir Little.

Yes yes. Come to the light.

[Superbone]

[Cap]

No kidding. This team is crazy deep. There are more players who deserve to play than there are spots in the rotation. Preseason is for figuring out who’s out and who’s in. We know the Big 3 and EG are in, so this is about evaluating everybody else.

[ShelC]

Training Camp Day 4 clips plus a FLEX BOMB!!!!!

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[Flagrant Fowl]

They’ll get some bump?