Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:52 pm
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Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:28 pm
Cool. Sounds like other teams wanna fleece us and JJ isn’t having it. Perhaps there’s some dog whistling around drafted players he thinks highly of come next week for trade partners—and otherwise he’s content keeping the band together.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:53 am
Jones is finally saying the right thing about DA. Dare teams to make him an offer and assure them we'll match. That's how we have leverage. I think the other stuff about us not looking to match or not wanting to give him a max came from other teams or his own people. The fact that Detroit went big with Duren might mean they've moved on or weren't even interested in offering a max deal.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:48 am
Alright, I have a question. There is talk that Kyrie Irving is going to opt out of Brooklyn and possibly sign with the Lakers for $6 million. Why would he sign with the Lakers when the Suns are so close and can definitely afford $6 million. Could this be the right time right place third guard that has been alluded to?
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:59 am
So after losing a bug chunk of his salary because of the pandemic Irving's going to flush $30 million to sign with the Lakers?
Not likely.
Not likely.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:12 am
He can start with the LakersSunsRIt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:48 amAlright, I have a question. There is talk that Kyrie Irving is going to opt out of Brooklyn and possibly sign with the Lakers for $6 million. Why would he sign with the Lakers when the Suns are so close and can definitely afford $6 million. Could this be the right time right place third guard that has been alluded to?
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:13 am
Well the fact that he was willing to sacrifice last year tells me he’s maybe not as concerned about money as most.The Bobster wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:59 amSo after losing a bug chunk of his salary because of the pandemic Irving's going to flush $30 million to sign with the Lakers?
Not likely.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:57 am
Yeah, I could totally see Kyrie opting out and taking some vet-min deal somewhere; I think he's just wired differently. If, for some weird reason, Kyrie would end up here, am I crazy to think that he and Ayton would be the best of friends and play really well together on the court?Split T wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:13 amWell the fact that he was willing to sacrifice last year tells me he’s maybe not as concerned about money as most.The Bobster wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:59 amSo after losing a bug chunk of his salary because of the pandemic Irving's going to flush $30 million to sign with the Lakers?
Not likely.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:40 am
At 20m per, sign me up for Ayton.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:48 am
I can almost guarantee he's not going to opt out and sign for some piddly $6M or whatever to join a contender. If there's anything I've learned about Kyrie it's that he doesn't care much for winning titles to appease owners or fans. That's just not how he's wired.SunsRIt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:48 amAlright, I have a question. There is talk that Kyrie Irving is going to opt out of Brooklyn and possibly sign with the Lakers for $6 million. Why would he sign with the Lakers when the Suns are so close and can definitely afford $6 million. Could this be the right time right place third guard that has been alluded to?
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:49 am
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:50 am
That's fine.Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:49 amThat's not gonna happen. A deal that starts in the $28M range and averages around $30M a season is the best well get if you're on the non-max side of the Ayton spectrum.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:41 am
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:45 am
Flex was just on Wolf & Luke and said that if you asked KD for a list of 3 teams he wants to go to, #1 would be the Suns, #2 would be the Suns, and Flex doesn’t care who would be #3. FWIW. 
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:45 am
Nobody wants to max a good but not great center? Color me shocked.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:50 am
If that’s the way it goes, it’s heading in the direction of the Eric Bledsoe situation. We already did that once and it didn’t end well. Sarver never learns from his mistakes. It’s either gonna be JJ part 2 or Bledsoe part 2.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:51 am
Bledsoe was such a waste.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:54 am
Why pay more than he is worth? Honestly? If nobody in the league thinks Ayton is max-worthy, why should the Suns pay that?
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:11 am
In order to keep a championship contender together without messing up the team chemistry and alienating your players. Duh.
All I ask is that the Suns learn from their mistakes. Bledsoe hated the Suns after what happened and eventually demanded out. It’s an awful, unethical, trash way of doing business. Using RFA against your player by telling teams you will match any offer in order to scare teams away from making an offer at all while you also refuse to make a decent offer so that you can eventually lowball your RFA and you can try to get him for a cheap price? It’s disgusting and it’s classic Sarver. They refused to even give DA an offer last summer. They better at least give him an offer at the beginning of free agency, if Jones is telling the truth when he says he wants to keep the team together.
Re: Suns Off-Season Thread
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:27 am
This team isn't a championship contender, sorry. Barely scraped outta the 1st round, absolutely smacked in the 2nd, needs a retooling. Duh.JeremyG wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:11 amIn order to keep a championship contender together without messing up the team chemistry and alienating your players. Duh.
All I ask is that the Suns learn from their mistakes. Bledsoe hated the Suns after what happened and eventually demanded out. It’s an awful, unethical, trash way of doing business. Using RFA against your player by telling teams you will match any offer in order to scare teams away from making an offer at all while you also refuse to make a decent offer so that you can eventually lowball your RFA and you can try to get him for a cheap price? It’s disgusting and it’s classic Sarver. They refused to even give DA an offer last summer. They better at least give him an offer at the beginning of free agency, if Jones is telling the truth when he says he wants to keep the team together.