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I'm pretty stunned that the Warriors are struggling so much in the last two games. I still think they expended too much energy going for the 73 wins and are running out of gas here down the stretch. It all starts with Steph's injured MCL, which I still think is hurting and hobbling him. Mark my words, right after the Finals he'll go in for knee surgery. And Barnes has been a no-show and Klay has been inconsistent. The shots just aren't falling. Some credit goes to the Cavs defense for that.

I think the Ws can still pull it out in Game 7 on their home floor. But the Cavs have a ton of confidence and all the momentum. The last 2 games they ran out to huge leads in the 1st quarter and basically held it even after that. If the Warriors can just weather the storm in the start of the game, I think they can win it.

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The Bobster wrote:The Finals have certainly shown us that being the regular season MVP (Curry) and the playoff MVP (which James deserves) are two entirely different things.
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Cap wrote:Warranted a technical foul, no doubt. But I don't think it warranted ejection, let alone suspension.

It was a very human reaction. It's not difficult to imagine myself reacting the same way in the same situation.
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O_Gardino wrote:
Cap wrote:Warranted a technical foul, no doubt. But I don't think it warranted ejection, let alone suspension.

It was a very human reaction. It's not difficult to imagine myself reacting the same way in the same situation.
Cap, you are the last person I could imagine throwing a mouthpiece. Your posts are always so calm and reasoned.
Thanks, but I do have a temper. It's not difficult to provoke me into an angry display when adrenaline is running high. Unlike basketball or other physical exertion, posting on the BBS doesn't produce a rush of excess adrenaline.

Also, my objectivity on this may be compromised by the fact that I have to wear a dental guard constantly (due to severe, uncontrollable bruxism). The darn thing is uncomfortable and annoying, and the image of chucking it into the stands is kind of cathartic.

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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:I'm pretty stunned that the Warriors are struggling so much in the last two games. I still think they expended too much energy going for the 73 wins and are running out of gas here down the stretch. It all starts with Steph's injured MCL, which I still think is hurting and hobbling him. Mark my words, right after the Finals he'll go in for knee surgery. And Barnes has been a no-show and Klay has been inconsistent. The shots just aren't falling. Some credit goes to the Cavs defense for that.

I think the Ws can still pull it out in Game 7 on their home floor. But the Cavs have a ton of confidence and all the momentum. The last 2 games they ran out to huge leads in the 1st quarter and basically held it even after that. If the Warriors can just weather the storm in the start of the game, I think they can win it.
How does resting players more during the regular season stop Curry from slipping on a wet patch during the playoffs?

Also, their players may not have sat games, but the minutes distribution among their stars was very, very reasonable. They weren't getting "Thibodeaued."

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The Bobster wrote:...and the playoff MVP (which James deserves)...
The Cavs probably have to win for LeBron to be Finals MVP. It's only happened one time in the history of the league where a player (Jerry West, 1969) lost and got MVP.
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Curry averaged 34 minutes a game during the season which isn't excessive at all. Bogut averaged only 21 and he still got hurt.

The Warriors didn't place a player in the top 20 in average minutes played this year. Sometimes things just happen.
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Cap wrote:
O_Gardino wrote:
Cap wrote:Warranted a technical foul, no doubt. But I don't think it warranted ejection, let alone suspension.

It was a very human reaction. It's not difficult to imagine myself reacting the same way in the same situation.
Cap, you are the last person I could imagine throwing a mouthpiece. Your posts are always so calm and reasoned.
Thanks, but I do have a temper. It's not difficult to provoke me into an angry display when adrenaline is running high. Unlike basketball or other physical exertion, posting on the BBS doesn't produce a rush of excess adrenaline.

Also, my objectivity on this may be compromised by the fact that I have to wear a dental guard constantly (due to severe, uncontrollable bruxism). The darn thing is uncomfortable and annoying, and the image of chucking it into the stands is kind of cathartic.
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I definitely don't think that what Curry did warrants a suspension and he won't receive one. I just meant that his actions warranted an ejection from the game. At that point, he was already fouled out so it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
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Haslem got a suspension for throwing his mouth guard....but it was at a ref.
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carey wrote:Haslem got a suspension for throwing his mouth guard....but it was at a ref.
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Win or lose in game 7, does love stay or go?

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carey wrote:Batum would be a great fit there as I'm not sure how much gas Iggy has in the tank.
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The Bobster wrote:You're always going to get ejected if you throw something into the crowd. That's just the way it is.

And the 6th call on Curry was a ticky-tacky call, but it was a foul. Certainly not nearly as bad a call as the one in the second quarter that gave Love his third foul.

The Finals have certainly shown us that being the regular season MVP (Curry) and the playoff MVP (which James deserves) are two entirely different things.
They were not calling that contact as fouls 90% of the time when curry was being doubled.

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Not sure, but I think the broadcasters said that a technical after fouled out it's an automatic ejection.

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Shabazz wrote:How does resting players more during the regular season stop Curry from slipping on a wet patch during the playoffs?

Also, their players may not have sat games, but the minutes distribution among their stars was very, very reasonable. They weren't getting "Thibodeaued."
The NBA regular season is a grind. If you can steal a game or a half or a quarter of rest here and there, the cumulative difference is huge. These things matter.

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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Shabazz wrote:How does resting players more during the regular season stop Curry from slipping on a wet patch during the playoffs?

Also, their players may not have sat games, but the minutes distribution among their stars was very, very reasonable. They weren't getting "Thibodeaued."
The NBA regular season is a grind. If you can steal a game or a half or a quarter of rest here and there, the cumulative difference is huge. These things matter.
Injury due to fatigue or being worn out it one thing. This was an injury that would have happened either way.

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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Shabazz wrote:How does resting players more during the regular season stop Curry from slipping on a wet patch during the playoffs?

Also, their players may not have sat games, but the minutes distribution among their stars was very, very reasonable. They weren't getting "Thibodeaued."
The NBA regular season is a grind. If you can steal a game or a half or a quarter of rest here and there, the cumulative difference is huge. These things matter.
I think you're reaching here, Mori. The Warriors didn't overextend themselves. As others said, none of their guys were in the top 20 in minutes played, and they blew teams out left and right that led to their starters getting early rest.

The Warriors are not facing a Game 7 because they got tired; they're facing a Game 7 because Cleveland has played better than them the last two games (and Draymond Green missed Game 5).
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I have barely watched any of the finals or playoffs for that matter. I'll watch tomorrow night because of the Drama but between two teams I don't like, every game minus 1 being a blow out, the inconsistency of Suspending players (you can kick Steven adams in the nuts but not Lebron after he stepped over you), the awful officiating (yes the NBA has the worst refs/umpires/linesmans of any of the 4 major sports and now we have reports over the last 2mins to prove it), and worst of all the absolutely DREADFUL media coverage ESPN has (Michael Wilbon and Stephen A. Smith.....ARE WE SERIOUS???) And to cap it off the multiple times throughout the playoffs I've heard people say David Stern alterd the course of history by suspending Amare and Diaw (due to the Green suspension and non suspension) It has been like 1 big nightmare.

I found myself watching a Copa America game the other night instead of Game 6.
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AmareIsGod wrote:I definitely don't think that what Curry did warrants a suspension and he won't receive one. I just meant that his actions warranted an ejection from the game. At that point, he was already fouled out so it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

Curry could of thrown the whole bench at a fan and they wouldn't of suspended him for Game 7.
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