I dont think of Marion as any soft of high end defender, good rebounder/help side shot blocker, but he wasnt great overall IMO.Marty [Mori Chu] wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:59 pm*cough* Shawn Marion *cough*TheOriginalOriginal wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:20 pmI think Bridges is gonna be our defensive glue Shane Battier heart and soul type. Not sure we've ever had a guy like that.
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I wouldn't move Bridges in a trade for Ball, but I'm not sure what he has done to earn untouchable status. He has been pretty mediocre this season.specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:13 pmIMO Bridges is as untouchable as Booker and Ayton. I’m not trading him unless I’m getting a bonafide star in return.
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He makes all the right plays, he’s already elite on defense, he is a smart player with a shot that will certainly fall with time. He’s at least a fantastic role player, and that floor is more than I can say for any other Suns player.INFORMER wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:20 pmI wouldn't move Bridges in a trade for Ball, but I'm not sure what he has done to earn untouchable status. He has been pretty mediocre this season.specialsauce wrote: ↑Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:13 pmIMO Bridges is as untouchable as Booker and Ayton. I’m not trading him unless I’m getting a bonafide star in return.
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i hope james jones doesnt get taken advantage of by lebron. dont trade tj, dont trade bridges! jj and the mil pick is enough!
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Does this mean NO was asking for Jackson plus a top 5 protected pick next year? Or just our top 5 protected pick next year?
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Sounds to me like Jackson AND a first.
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hmmm, ya Jackson and our own 1st is too much...but NO probably knows that. They probably want Jackson and the Mil 1st and are just negotiating.
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JJ and the Bucks pick is more than enough for Ball who doesn't even want to be in NO.
I think it will happen eventually but I will miss JJ for sure. Now trade TJ for a real PF and sign Oubre.
Ball
Booker
Bridges
Mirotic??
Ayton
Bench
Oubre
Holmes
Melton
I think it will happen eventually but I will miss JJ for sure. Now trade TJ for a real PF and sign Oubre.
Ball
Booker
Bridges
Mirotic??
Ayton
Bench
Oubre
Holmes
Melton
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I'm reading that the Doug and Wolf Show as well as the Bickley and Marotta show have scheduled interviews with Lavar Ball for tomorrow.
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What about TJ for somebody like Dario Saric? Not enough?
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Sounds to me like just the top 5 protected pick! If so, the Suns are stupid not to do that deal! I would much rather give up the pick (especially top 5 protected!!) than Jackson!
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I don't know how you're getting that. They said they wanted a bigger haul than Jackson and a 2nd. That means Jackson and a 1st. I'd rather it was TJ and a first but they appear to want Jackson.
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You may be right. But it's possible they consider a good first rounder (unprotected 2020) to be a bigger haul than Jackson and a 2nd.Superbone wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:20 amI don't know how you're getting that. They said they wanted a bigger haul than Jackson and a 2nd. That means Jackson and a 1st. I'd rather it was TJ and a first but they appear to want Jackson.
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The Suns priority isnt to help New Orleans or Lebron. if the NO trade falls apart, i think suns and lakers do the lonzo trade anyway.
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Wish they could meet in the middle with something like Jackson+MIL pick.
Lonzo is more valuable than Jackson, but not by a ton. Adding PHX '19 would be ridiculous, even with top5 protection.
I'd pull the trigger on Ball for said pick alone, though (then I'd look to send out Jackson for a PF, maybe even Mirotic while I'm at it, using Bender, Daniels and Okobo; this is where losing Chandler's contract hurts).
Currently we are second worst after 55 games, which means 80% of ending up top5 in the lotto. Say we make the move, improve the rest of the season and finish better than CLE and CHI (ATL looks too distant with 7 more wins; how crazy is that?). That still means 55% of keeping the pick.
Lonzo is more valuable than Jackson, but not by a ton. Adding PHX '19 would be ridiculous, even with top5 protection.
I'd pull the trigger on Ball for said pick alone, though (then I'd look to send out Jackson for a PF, maybe even Mirotic while I'm at it, using Bender, Daniels and Okobo; this is where losing Chandler's contract hurts).
Currently we are second worst after 55 games, which means 80% of ending up top5 in the lotto. Say we make the move, improve the rest of the season and finish better than CLE and CHI (ATL looks too distant with 7 more wins; how crazy is that?). That still means 55% of keeping the pick.
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Jackson and the Milwaukee pick. Or our own heavily protected first round draft pick. We're still re-building: we need our own pick this year.
Ball, with his many flaws, isn't worth both JJ (who has lots of flaws and is an equivalent player) and a draft pick. Ball is worth a little more than JJ, but not worth a lotto pick more.
Ball, with his many flaws, isn't worth both JJ (who has lots of flaws and is an equivalent player) and a draft pick. Ball is worth a little more than JJ, but not worth a lotto pick more.
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Agreed. We're in the driver's seat if this deal depends on us.
I really like JJ, but like I said, he'd be a little redundant with Ball on the roster so I'm OK letting him go. Wouldn't give up a 1st tho. Remember, he was the 4th pick in his own right.
I really like JJ, but like I said, he'd be a little redundant with Ball on the roster so I'm OK letting him go. Wouldn't give up a 1st tho. Remember, he was the 4th pick in his own right.