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There seems to be a lot of PGs available in free agency this year. That should help us with the Payne situation.

I'm sorry, but Sarver needs to hush and defer to Jones...he doesn't know how to play the game. This kind of crap could come across as offensive, and that's the wrong tact if we indeed want to keep him. He's got no finesse at ALL...

Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:48 pm

I'm sorry, but Sarver needs to hush and defer to Jones...he doesn't know how to play the game. This kind of crap could come across as offensive, and that's the wrong tact if we indeed want to keep him. He's got no finesse at ALL...

He's a billionaire white male banker in the US. He's never needed finesse.

Indy wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:10 pm

Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:48 pm

I'm sorry, but Sarver needs to hush and defer to Jones...he doesn't know how to play the game. This kind of crap could come across as offensive, and that's the wrong tact if we indeed want to keep him. He's got no finesse at ALL...

He's a billionaire white male banker in the US. He's never needed finesse.

Doesn't make it a good thing...

If the money and length are equal, would you guys rather Payne or TJ McConnell? Put aside the fact that you'd need to use the MLE on TJ and can sign Payne with bird rights.

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:41 pm

If the money and length are equal, would you guys rather Payne or TJ McConnell? Put aside the fact that you'd need to use the MLE on TJ and can sign Payne with bird rights.

TJ can’t knock down 3s and is umproven in the playoffs. Against bigger defensive teams I bet his defensive efficacy drops and he gets bullied. He’s an excellent creator and great in the regular season. I’d rather go with Patty Mills for his scoring and leadership in the clutch.

For some reason I think Paul will be back unless the Lakers grab him. I have no idea. It just seems like something they would do.

I also am hoping what happened in the bubble happens again this year. We sucked for many years. Acquired some talent and after a few years almost made the playoffs last year going 8/0 in the bubble. That impressed a lot of people and that is why we got CP3, Crowder and Galloway. This year we won our first two games of the Finals. The team unity, a really good coach. That had to impress someone. Maybe someone who plays in the NBA and is a good BU Center wanting to come to a winning team and is willing to take a slight pay cut.

I’d take Payne over TJ

Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:29 pm

Indy wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:10 pm

Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 28, 2021 5:48 pm

I'm sorry, but Sarver needs to hush and defer to Jones...he doesn't know how to play the game. This kind of crap could come across as offensive, and that's the wrong tact if we indeed want to keep him. He's got no finesse at ALL...

He's a billionaire white male banker in the US. He's never needed finesse.

Doesn't make it a good thing...

Completely agree

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:22 am

Only problem I have with Nance is his rebounding (per 36) has been dropping off a cliff the last few years (12.1 in 2018 to 7.8 last season). If we're gonna have another undersized PF, he at least needs to be a great rebounder.

Argreed !

He has the athleticism to get up and down the floor and block shots, but his rebounding has gone south.

Uncle_Gene wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:19 am

JeremyG wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:22 am

Only problem I have with Nance is his rebounding (per 36) has been dropping off a cliff the last few years (12.1 in 2018 to 7.8 last season). If we're gonna have another undersized PF, he at least needs to be a great rebounder.

Argreed !

He has the athleticism to get up and down the floor and block shots, but his rebounding has gone south.

A big part of rebounding, is effort. Nance and Kevin Love must be depressed as hell, knowing they are in a rebuilding effort as stop gaps, not building blocks. Love already had that visible mini meltdown, where he blows that inbounding play, totally out of frustration. Getting a traded Nance or a buyed out Love, would bring a player hungry to prove himself, and to taste some success again (Lebron left them behind after the parade). Their rebounding will go up.

6-4 guard out of New Hampshire, 26 years old

Is it pronounced JaLEN or JaLEAN?

Turns out this is who James Jones thought he was drafting last year

This is gonna make our summer league very confusing lol. Two Jale(e)n Smiths!

Have this in the Draft thread too but also affects our offseason. What does this mean for Payne? Shamet is still on his rookie deal this year and next and then is restricted.

I see Shamet as more of a 2. Still need Payne back

Yeah, Shamet is a second string SG at best. I don't ever want him playing point guard.

I like this deal for the Suns. Odds are high that Shamet will be significantly better than the 29th pick for the Suns next season, and I didn't think Carter and his salary were long for this roster.

From what I've seen of Shamet, he's either a volcano spitting fireballs or an Arctic penguin. But he's always played hard and never been a problem in the locker room.

Probably most importantly, he's not on the books for '22-'23 when Ayton and Bridges will get their raises.

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 29, 2021 3:41 pm

I like this deal for the Suns. Odds are high that Shamet will be significantly better than the 29th pick for the Suns next season, and I didn't think Carter and his salary were long for this roster.

From what I've seen of Shamet, he's either a volcano spitting fireballs or an Arctic penguin. But he's always played hard and never been a problem in the locker room.

Probably most importantly, he's not on the books for '22-'23 when Ayton and Bridges will get their raises.

And neither will the 29th pick or Carter. I think that might have more to do with it than anything.