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Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:02 am
by Indy
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:50 am
carey wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:43 am
Is Oubre expiring?
Yes
This works
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=28s5ltdu
Craig, Crowder, Saric, and Payne for Rozier/Oubre
We’d have to add draft capital…tried to find a way to do Hayward/Rozier, but that’s trickier salary wise unless we wait till Dec 15
Honestly just using Craig, Crowder, Saric to get Hayward would be extremely helpful (depending on his health, as always). He only has 1 year after this on his deal.
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:28 am
by Split T
True, I’d go for that…need Charlotte to start losing first though
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:04 pm
by bajanguy008
Not just rocking the jerseys
Gonna be a whole theme in the arena - Back to the Future type stuff lol
Both games this week so need to ball out in the throwbacks
https://www.nba.com/suns/news/phoenix-s ... ght-series
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:15 pm
by Superbone
Shabazz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:42 am
Surprised I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere, but pretty sure the Portland game ended our streak of games won with a lead heading into the 4th.
Good. That was exhausting and didn't get us anywhere anyway.
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:17 pm
by Shabazz
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:50 am
carey wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:43 am
Is Oubre expiring?
Yes
This works
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=28s5ltdu
Craig, Crowder, Saric, and Payne for Rozier/Oubre
We’d have to add draft capital…tried to find a way to do Hayward/Rozier, but that’s trickier salary wise unless we wait till Dec 15
That's the trade I liked as well. Definitely helps our creation issues and Oubre can defend when motivated. We can then add some guys from the buyout pool to round out the roster.
I just don't trust Hayward's health at his salary number. Would be concerned we'd be giving up too much for a player who wouldn't be healthy when it mattered.
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:20 pm
by Split T
Ya, safer to just take Rozier/Oubre
A Rozier/Shamet/Lee/Oubre/Landale bench unit is a major upgrade.
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:12 pm
by Wally_West
I feel like a Rozier/Oubre deal is some pipedream stuff. I Would love it but surely CHA can get something better for Rozier then Crowder and a late 1st? If that’s all it takes then let’s fuckin go.
Gordon Hayward seems like it be more realistic option only because I think CHA would be more than willing to do a salary dump for him. Crowder, Dario and Shamet probably gets it done right now, and seeing how Crowder and Dario aren’t even playing right now, it’s just trading Shamet rotation spot for Gordon Hayward which seems like a win to me. Even if he gets hurt and misses time, it’s be no different then if Shamet got hurt, plus it opens up several roster spots in case of buy outs.
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:43 pm
by Shabazz
Wally_West wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:12 pm
I feel like a Rozier/Oubre deal is some pipedream stuff. I Would love it but surely CHA can get something better for Rozier then Crowder and a late 1st? If that’s all it takes then let’s fuckin go.
Gordon Hayward seems like it be more realistic option only because I think CHA would be more than willing to do a salary dump for him. Crowder, Dario and Shamet probably gets it done right now, and seeing how Crowder and Dario aren’t even playing right now, it’s just trading Shamet rotation spot for Gordon Hayward which seems like a win to me. Even if he gets hurt and misses time, it’s be no different then if Shamet got hurt, plus it opens up several roster spots in case of buy outs.
It would require Charlotte recognizing they’re barely a play-in team and pivoting to strengthening their Wemby/Scoot position while offloading future salary obligations at the one position they’re solid long-term.
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:57 pm
by Superbone
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 12:20 pm
Ya, safer to just take Rozier/Oubre
A Rozier/Shamet/Lee/Oubre/Landale bench unit is a major upgrade.
And a fun time with Saucy for all.
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:20 pm
by ShelC
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:26 pm
by ShelC
Middleton makes 37mil with another year on the deal so it would take something like Crowder, Dario, Craig and Shamet/Payne.
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:46 pm
by Split T
The bucks are not giving us Middleton…he’d have to demand a trade and we’d have to give up a lot more than our pu pu platter of expirings…something more like Crowder/CamJ to Milwaukee, Saric/Shamet/1st to Houston who gives Milwaukee Eric Gordon.
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:50 pm
by Wally_West
If we’re making trades with the Bucks, id prefer Giannis.
Crowder, Shamet, Dario, Cam, Craig and maybe couple 1st should get it done
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:54 pm
by TOO
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:46 pm
The bucks are not giving us Middleton…he’d have to demand a trade and we’d have to give up a lot more than our pu pu platter of expirings…something more like Crowder/CamJ to Milwaukee, Saric/Shamet/1st to Houston who gives Milwaukee Eric Gordon.
Dang Milwaukee really makes out here lol.
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:54 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
The Bucks are title contenders. They’re not trading anyone good for Jae Crowder. So that means they’re talking about Greyson Allen.
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:55 pm
by Split T
I remember when for half a second I dreamed of trading for Giannis…Ayton/Oubre and all our picks was my offer. Of course it needed Giannis to tell Milwaukee he wouldn’t re-sign with them after we’d seen the Bucks falter in the playoffs 2 years in a row…but he re-signed and they won the finals.
Giannis/Booker would have been an absolutely devastating duo for 10 years in the league.
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:03 pm
by Drewsprocket
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:54 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:46 pm
The bucks are not giving us Middleton…he’d have to demand a trade and we’d have to give up a lot more than our pu pu platter of expirings…something more like Crowder/CamJ to Milwaukee, Saric/Shamet/1st to Houston who gives Milwaukee Eric Gordon.
Dang Milwaukee really makes out here lol.
Honestly, If I’m Bucks I’d trade Kris for Cam Johnson, Jae, and 1st rounders + salary.
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:12 pm
by Mori Chu
Why would the Bucks trade Middleton exactly? What makes anyone think this is a thing?
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:14 pm
by Split T
Drewsprocket wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:03 pm
TOO wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:54 pm
Split T wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:46 pm
The bucks are not giving us Middleton…he’d have to demand a trade and we’d have to give up a lot more than our pu pu platter of expirings…something more like Crowder/CamJ to Milwaukee, Saric/Shamet/1st to Houston who gives Milwaukee Eric Gordon.
Dang Milwaukee really makes out here lol.
Honestly, If I’m Bucks I’d trade Kris for Cam Johnson, Jae, and 1st rounders + salary.
I don’t know why Khris would want out, so it’s pretty pointless to entertain, but moving Middleton for 3 good, albeit lesser, players wouldn’t be the worst idea. He’s 31 and might be very pricey next summer. Is he the right guy to lock into as Giannis sidekick for the next 5 years? Not sure…though I wouldn’t mess with it this year while they still have a good title shot.
Re: Suns News: Week 2 (10/24-10/30)
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:15 pm
by Split T
Mori Chu wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:12 pm
Why would the Bucks trade Middleton exactly? What makes anyone think this is a thing?
Aging, injuries, eligible for a massive contract in the summer. I think chances are less than 5% but those would be the reasons.
