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Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:57 pm
by Shabazz
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 6:14 pm
I find Bill Simmons increasingly annoying as days go by, but I'll always agree with him on this; there's no reason to lock yourself into your roster in July/August.
Agreed. I'm withholding judgement.

We were a great team last year and a worthy finalist, but we needed more than Carter-Shamet and Craig-McGee swaps.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:44 pm
by Drewsprocket
THT would be fantastic off the bench. No way he’s let go by LAL. I still think Dieng would be solid as a back up 4-5. He knocks down 3s and isn’t Shaqtin’ around.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:15 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
THT would absolutely be great for the Suns bench, but the more I think about it, James Jones might be trying to Jedi mind trick the Lakers.

THT has value, but he hasn't really had a role on the Lakers since LeBron arrived. So getting them to overpay to keep him hurts their ability to sign other guys who fill their other roster holes.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:18 pm
by Shabazz
Rudy Gay would fit a role and Stanley Johnson would be a good Craig replacement.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:26 pm
by Split T
I think I’m at Rudy Gay or Paul Millsap. Give me one of them and I’ll be happy. Who else is even out there still in our range?

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:28 pm
by virtual9mm
Looking at the per-36 numbers for McGee, they are pretty much unchanged from his peak. Less scoring but better rebounding. He's going to be a great backup.

Bring in a beefy 4 with a 3 and I'd be ready to call the Suns done. Or sign Oubre and use a SF as a trade chip for someone good.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:29 pm
by Shabazz
Do the Bulls need to rescind their QO for Lauri to make their other moves? Man, that would be something.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:31 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
I prefer a guy who can put the ball on the floor, so someone like Millsap doesn't interest me.

On the other hand, this roster needs some rebounding and he'd definitely help with that.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:32 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
virtual9mm wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:28 pm
Looking at the per-36 numbers for McGee, they are pretty much unchanged from his peak. Less scoring but better rebounding. He's going to be a great backup.

Bring in a beefy 4 with a 3 and I'd be ready to call the Suns done. Or sign Oubre and use a SF as a trade chip for someone good.
Eh, I'm not so optimistic. He's better than Frank, but I don't like the idea of needing him to contribute night in and out.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:50 pm
by virtual9mm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:31 pm
I prefer a guy who can put the ball on the floor, so someone like Millsap doesn't interest me.

On the other hand, this roster needs some rebounding and he'd definitely help with that.
Millsap at the vet min would be fine, I think.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:51 pm
by virtual9mm
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:32 pm
virtual9mm wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:28 pm
Looking at the per-36 numbers for McGee, they are pretty much unchanged from his peak. Less scoring but better rebounding. He's going to be a great backup.

Bring in a beefy 4 with a 3 and I'd be ready to call the Suns done. Or sign Oubre and use a SF as a trade chip for someone good.
Eh, I'm not so optimistic. He's better than Frank, but I don't like the idea of needing him to contribute night in and out.
15 mph of good, physical play in the post during the playoffs is all I would ask. And per minute, he seems to be the same player he has always been.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:59 pm
by Nodack
I feel bad bout Galloway. I think he thought he was going to get a lot more playing time. He was in the lineup a lot at the beginning of the season and had some nice shooting games. I think his size and defensive abilities were what knocked him out of the lineup. On the rare times after that he got garbage time he was just so so. I think his heart wasn’t in it after that.

That has to be a little hard. Not getting any playing time most of the year on a team that goes to the Championship.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:03 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
Galloway is a great locker room guy, but he's just not good enough to be a rotation player on a contender.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:27 pm
by Split T
Shabazz wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:29 pm
Do the Bulls need to rescind their QO for Lauri to make their other moves? Man, that would be something.
I believe I saw how they’re operating as an over the cap team, so no they don’t have to. Ball was acquired in a S&T and Caruso with the MLE

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:29 pm
by Split T
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:31 pm
I prefer a guy who can put the ball on the floor, so someone like Millsap doesn't interest me.

On the other hand, this roster needs some rebounding and he'd definitely help with that.
He can dribble a bit..moves the ball well. I think he’s a pretty similar player to Saric honestly.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:06 am
by JeremyG
Split T wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:26 pm
I think I’m at Rudy Gay or Paul Millsap. Give me one of them and I’ll be happy. Who else is even out there still in our range?
There’s always Markieff Morris. :P

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:55 am
by Superbone
virtual9mm wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:28 pm
Looking at the per-36 numbers for McGee, they are pretty much unchanged from his peak. Less scoring but better rebounding. He's going to be a great backup.

Bring in a beefy 4 with a 3 and I'd be ready to call the Suns done. Or sign Oubre and use a SF as a trade chip for someone good.
Are you trying to get BG's blood boiling?!

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:57 am
by virtual9mm
Superbone wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:55 am
virtual9mm wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:28 pm
Looking at the per-36 numbers for McGee, they are pretty much unchanged from his peak. Less scoring but better rebounding. He's going to be a great backup.

Bring in a beefy 4 with a 3 and I'd be ready to call the Suns done. Or sign Oubre and use a SF as a trade chip for someone good.
Are you trying to get BG's blood boiling?!
Not intentionally!

But...if you could get Oubre for cheap for a couple of years...and put together a package for a disgruntled Zion...or more realistically, Siakam.

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:52 am
by The Bobster
What about somebody like Khem Birch?

Re: The 2021 Suns Offseason

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:04 am
by Split T
The Bobster wrote:
Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:52 am
What about somebody like Khem Birch?
Can he play alongside Ayton? At this point I think we need a 4 that can play the 5, Birch is decent but I think he’s pretty strictly a 5.

With Gay gone, our options are drying up…Millsap still there…Melo still there scares me. He needs to sign with the Lakers already.