Around the League: Playoffs

Discussion of the league and of our favorite team.
User avatar
O_Gardino
Posts: 6662
Joined: Fri May 20, 2016 12:47 pm
Location: Shreveport, LA

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by O_Gardino »

You guys, I hacked McD's computer and he had this in a .txt file:

trade knight for cap space
draft Dunn and Jamal Murray
bring back Price
sign Conley and Rondo to max contracts
don't play the rookies so they can "develop"
best back court in the NBA
perfect 21 minutes per game rotation
well rested when the playoffs come
this time the pg's won't mind the low minutes.
what was with those other jerks who wanted to play?
Warren is PF of the future
hype Booker at SF
make Len a spot-up 3pt shooter
if we don't make the playoffs, hold self accountable by firing a bunch of coaches
The league needs heroes, villains... and clowns. -- Aztec Sunsfan

Gladiator
Posts: 1872
Joined: Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:08 am

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by Gladiator »

https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/742438122168930304

Deal is for 3 years, $15+ million

User avatar
TOO
Posts: 11022
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:21 pm

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by TOO »

Gladiator wrote:

https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/742438122168930304

Deal is for 3 years, $15+ million
Shit man, that LW money, must be a great coach.

User avatar
Superbone
Posts: 34628
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:44 am
Location: San Diego, CA (Phoenix Native)

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by Superbone »

TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Gladiator wrote:

https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/742438122168930304

Deal is for 3 years, $15+ million
Shit man, that LW money, must be a great coach.
:lol:
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.

"Be Legendary."

User avatar
carey
Posts: 12061
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:06 pm
Contact:

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by carey »

https://twitter.com/Aykis16/status/742741867633119233

Kings can't get anyone to work out for them. Supposedly agents are controlling the process more than ever before and GMs are frustrated. The one thing I will give Jaylen Brown credit for is that he will work out against anyone at any time. Surprised the Kings haven't had him in.
Go Suns!

Og Snus!

User avatar
ShelC
Posts: 12465
Joined: Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:00 am

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by ShelC »

The combine and draft workouts are becoming a joke. I'll bet within 5 years, there will be only measurements and interviews with an occasional workout. Truth be told, if you're doing your homework and watching these guys in-season, you don't need an individual workout. Seeing them in games, seeing them reacting to teammates and coaches, crunch time situations, should be enough.

User avatar
In2ition
Posts: 12444
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:35 pm

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by In2ition »

carey wrote:

https://twitter.com/Aykis16/status/742741867633119233

Kings can't get anyone to work out for them. Supposedly agents are controlling the process more than ever before and GMs are frustrated. The one thing I will give Jaylen Brown credit for is that he will work out against anyone at any time. Surprised the Kings haven't had him in.
Almost sounds like they are planning on trading their pick this year or they are comfortable with their draft board and don't feel like they need to workout or bring anyone in.
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann
"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass

User avatar
carey
Posts: 12061
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:06 pm
Contact:

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by carey »

ShelC wrote:The combine and draft workouts are becoming a joke. I'll bet within 5 years, there will be only measurements and interviews with an occasional workout. Truth be told, if you're doing your homework and watching these guys in-season, you don't need an individual workout. Seeing them in games, seeing them reacting to teammates and coaches, crunch time situations, should be enough.
I'm not quite sure I agree. We've seen how some of the top college coaches tend to overcoach and put players into positions that serve the team more than the player. We're not always able to see what a player can do just by watching their college games. Surely GMs and scouts have more access than we do, but I do think workouts are a necessary part of the process.
Go Suns!

Og Snus!

User avatar
Ring_Wanted
Posts: 5011
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:47 am

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by Ring_Wanted »

Knight for #8. Take Belinelli and/or Koufos if they want/need cap relief.

Come onnnn

User avatar
Superbone
Posts: 34628
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:44 am
Location: San Diego, CA (Phoenix Native)

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by Superbone »

carey wrote:
ShelC wrote:The combine and draft workouts are becoming a joke. I'll bet within 5 years, there will be only measurements and interviews with an occasional workout. Truth be told, if you're doing your homework and watching these guys in-season, you don't need an individual workout. Seeing them in games, seeing them reacting to teammates and coaches, crunch time situations, should be enough.
I'm not quite sure I agree. We've seen how some of the top college coaches tend to overcoach and put players into positions that serve the team more than the player. We're not always able to see what a player can do just by watching their college games. Surely GMs and scouts have more access than we do, but I do think workouts are a necessary part of the process.
For example, I wonder if we would have selected Booker without them.
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.

"Be Legendary."

Gladiator
Posts: 1872
Joined: Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:08 am

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by Gladiator »

ShelC wrote:The combine and draft workouts are becoming a joke. I'll bet within 5 years, there will be only measurements and interviews with an occasional workout.
Simmons isn't planning on working out for the Sixers.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/basketball/ ... 430bbfd5d9
Colangelo said the Sixers, who won just 10 games last season, is trying to set up a workout, but Simmons’ reps don’t appear eager.

“His agent has decided that is the process they are undertaking,” Colangelo said. “Why don’t you call (Simmons’ agent) Rich Paul and ask him. It has nothing to do with us, and nothing to do with Philadelphia. Everybody goes about it a little differently. Sometimes players decide to work out, sometimes they decide not to work out.”

User avatar
INFORMER
Posts: 8404
Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:19 pm

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by INFORMER »

In2ition wrote: Almost sounds like they are planning on trading their pick this year or they are comfortable with their draft board and don't feel like they need to workout or bring anyone in.
Ring_Wanted wrote:Knight for #8. Take Belinelli and/or Koufos if they want/need cap relief.

Come onnnn

Part of my seemingly annual roster reboot dream scenario is:

Sacramento receives: Thaddeus Young, Bojan Bogdanovic
Brooklyn receives: #28, Eric Bledsoe, Kosta Koufos, Ben McLemore
Phoenix receives: Marco Bellinelli, Jarrett Jack, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, #8

(I would waive Jack and Bellinelli)
Trendon Watford. Please and thank you.

User avatar
Cap
Posts: 8851
Joined: Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:08 pm

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by Cap »

Your dream consists of... RHJ and #8? How dull your nights must be.

User avatar
carey
Posts: 12061
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:06 pm
Contact:

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by carey »

Cap wrote:Your dream consists of... RHJ and #8? How dull your nights must be.
I think it consists of dumping EB.
Go Suns!

Og Snus!

User avatar
INFORMER
Posts: 8404
Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:19 pm

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by INFORMER »

Cap wrote:Your dream consists of... RHJ and #8?
Just part of it.
Trendon Watford. Please and thank you.

User avatar
Ring_Wanted
Posts: 5011
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:47 am

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by Ring_Wanted »

INFORMER wrote:Part of my seemingly annual roster reboot dream scenario is:

Sacramento receives: Thaddeus Young, Bojan Bogdanovic
Brooklyn receives: #28, Eric Bledsoe, Kosta Koufos, Ben McLemore
Phoenix receives: Marco Bellinelli, Jarrett Jack, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, #8

(I would waive Jack and Bellinelli)
Interesting. I'd be ok with this. RHJ is exactly the kind of role player we'd need around Booker and Warren. SAC probably would need something more. Maybe you can flip Belinelli for another contract more of their liking, plus say Archie. I was about to say the same about BRY as well, if only because they can't trust Bledsoe's health, but the rest of the package should properly make up for the risk.

Utah should be willing to trade for one of our guards as well. In my dreams this gets us Lyles. If they finally embrace winning now, maybe they value Tyson as a mean to make sure Favors doesn't need to play C, plus a Knight-Exum combo while Hayward handles at SF. Problem would be the combined money of Chandler and the PG.

User avatar
JustWinBaby
Posts: 501
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:33 pm
Location: Buckeye, Az

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by JustWinBaby »

INFORMER wrote:
Cap wrote:Your dream consists of... RHJ and #8?
Just part of it.
The key part is that INFO gets rid of Bledsoe.

I know you were once a fan of trading Bledsoe for Brandon Knight. However Knight is a far worse choice for us to keep than Bledsoe, IMO.
This BUD'S for us! - Play fast Play well - Go Suns!

User avatar
INFORMER
Posts: 8404
Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:19 pm

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by INFORMER »

I want them both gone.
Trendon Watford. Please and thank you.

User avatar
JustWinBaby
Posts: 501
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:33 pm
Location: Buckeye, Az

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by JustWinBaby »

INFORMER wrote:I want them both gone.
I can agree with that.
This BUD'S for us! - Play fast Play well - Go Suns!

User avatar
Superbone
Posts: 34628
Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:44 am
Location: San Diego, CA (Phoenix Native)

Re: Around the League: Playoffs

Post by Superbone »

JustWinBaby wrote:
INFORMER wrote:I want them both gone.
I can agree with that.
Me too. Still not happy with the way the Dragic situation was handled. Kind of wish we had never done the Dudley/Bledsoe deal although it seemed to be a coup at the time. Then the Knight deal was just plain silly. The whole thing ended up costing us $140 mil and neither of them can seem to play a whole season.
"Too little, too late, too unbothered."
- Phoenix Suns 2023-2024 season motto.

"Be Legendary."

Post Reply