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Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 8:35 am
by TOO
Bamba is a C we should look at, fits what Bud does.

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 8:37 am
by Superbone
Kryptonic wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 8:33 am
I was skeptical of Bol at first but saw a lot more potential and upside towards the latter part of the season.
I just wish he could put some weight on and not get pushed around but I just don't think his frame can take it. He needs to be eating 300 grams of protein a day.

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 10:16 am
by Split T
Yes to Bol, Yes to Bamba, yes to Wright…sure on Dinwiddie…don’t think I want Russ…if it’s the Russ who harassed the suns on defense in the playoffs last year? Then yes…but you’ll also have to take the 3/17 Russ.

I’ll 2nd the moving of Grayson to the bench…or Beal…but it better be for someone good. Not just like Royce O’Neale.

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 10:19 am
by Superbone
I like Royce O'Neale. + defender. I hope he can improve on his three point shot inconsistency.

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 10:27 am
by Split T
I like Royce too, but he’s a bench guy

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 11:45 am
by Wally_West
Maybe Bud can turn Bol into taller Bobby Portis.

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 11:49 am
by TOO
Bobby Portis plays with an attitude that Bol does not have.

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 12:01 pm
by Wally_West
TOO wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 11:49 am
Bobby Portis plays with an attitude that Bol does not have.
That’s okay. A Bobby Portis-lite that’s more finesse than attitude is good enough. He’s 7’3” and still 24, if he can shoot and make 3s at a decent clip and limit his defensive mistakes, I’ll be happy.

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 12:33 pm
by Superbone
He's got the lite part down.

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 12:42 pm
by TOO
Wally_West wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 12:01 pm
TOO wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 11:49 am
Bobby Portis plays with an attitude that Bol does not have.
That’s okay. A Bobby Portis-lite that’s more finesse than attitude is good enough. He’s 7’3” and still 24, if he can shoot and make 3s at a decent clip and limit his defensive mistakes, I’ll be happy.
So just be Bol Bol but better?

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 12:53 pm
by Wally_West
TOO wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 12:42 pm
Wally_West wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 12:01 pm
TOO wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 11:49 am
Bobby Portis plays with an attitude that Bol does not have.
That’s okay. A Bobby Portis-lite that’s more finesse than attitude is good enough. He’s 7’3” and still 24, if he can shoot and make 3s at a decent clip and limit his defensive mistakes, I’ll be happy.
So just be Bol Bol but better?
What’s wrong with a good Bol?

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 1:07 pm
by TOO
Wally_West wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 12:53 pm
TOO wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 12:42 pm
Wally_West wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 12:01 pm
TOO wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 11:49 am
Bobby Portis plays with an attitude that Bol does not have.
That’s okay. A Bobby Portis-lite that’s more finesse than attitude is good enough. He’s 7’3” and still 24, if he can shoot and make 3s at a decent clip and limit his defensive mistakes, I’ll be happy.
So just be Bol Bol but better?
What’s wrong with a good Bol?
Absolutely nothing.

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 2:12 pm
by Shabazz
I really think one of the only ways to improve the roster meaningfully is to move Beal for 2 or 3 solid role players. Getting him to waive his NTC and finding a team willing to absorb his salary are obviously challenges. Orlando’s been suggested and makes some sense.

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 3:55 pm
by Cap
TOO wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 12:42 pm
Wally_West wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 12:01 pm
TOO wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 11:49 am
Bobby Portis plays with an attitude that Bol does not have.
That’s okay. A Bobby Portis-lite that’s more finesse than attitude is good enough. He’s 7’3” and still 24, if he can shoot and make 3s at a decent clip and limit his defensive mistakes, I’ll be happy.
So just be Bol Bol but better?
If he sponsors the college football championship and makes it the Bol Bol Bowl, I’ll be happy. Especially if I can get a commemorative bowl from the game. I’ll smoke a bowl before using that bowl, and it will be my Bol Bol Bowl bowl bowl.

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 4:16 pm
by ShelC
Shabazz wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 2:12 pm
I really think one of the only ways to improve the roster meaningfully is to move Beal for 2 or 3 solid role players. Getting him to waive his NTC and finding a team willing to absorb his salary are obviously challenges. Orlando’s been suggested and makes some sense.
Miami supposedly passed on him over the summer but may be willing to re-visit now that Dame is on the Bucks. The Heat were his initial choice for a trade so I can't imagine he'd turn down a move there. Just not sure if Miami would be interested in giving up 3-4 pieces to make the salaries work.

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 4:18 pm
by Mori Chu
Superbone wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 8:37 am
Kryptonic wrote:
Sun May 12, 2024 8:33 am
I was skeptical of Bol at first but saw a lot more potential and upside towards the latter part of the season.
I just wish he could put some weight on and not get pushed around but I just don't think his frame can take it. He needs to be eating 300 grams of protein a day.
I agree! Put Bol on specialsauce's mom's diet. (Happy Mother's Day!)

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 3:21 am
by Split T
We should all probably prepare for no changes to the big 3…is be surprised if any is traded.

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 9:24 am
by iLLmatic
Split T wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 3:21 am
We should all probably prepare for no changes to the big 3…is be surprised if any is traded.
Sadly, I think you're right. Another wasted season coming up.

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 10:01 am
by SunsSince92
Split T wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 3:21 am
We should all probably prepare for no changes to the big 3…is be surprised if any is traded.
Agreed. We 'should' trade Durant but in reality we'll run it back with a different coach and a new supporting cast of vet minimums.

Re: 2024 Suns Offseason: Where do we go from here?

Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 10:24 am
by Mori Chu
SunsSince92 wrote:
Mon May 13, 2024 10:01 am
Agreed. We 'should' trade Durant but in reality we'll run it back with a different coach and a new supporting cast of vet minimums.
If it were up to me, I would trade Durant (and maybe others like Nurk or Grayson). I wouldn't trade Booker personally.

But I can understand why the team wants to give it another year. Vogel wasn't an ideal fit for this roster, and we now know a lot more about how this team can go wrong. There is some validity to the thinking that another year of continuity / chemistry, plus Coach Bud, plus a thoughtful set of bench / depth signings, plus maybe a trade or two, plus running 100% of the offense through Eubanks, could yield a much better result in the coming year.

IMO the biggest fear is the risk of injury, especially to Durant. I know last year felt like we had a bunch of injuries, but actually outside of Beal we were quite healthy, specifically guys like KD and Nurkic who have often missed large stretches of the season but played almost 100% of last season. We may not be so blessed next time. It will be hard to improve on last year's record if, say, KD or Book misses a big stretch of games.