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Kevin Durant is coming to Phoenix. Book it.
So then we have to stay pat here this season by not taking on any contracts? I can't believe Durant would sign for anything less than the max he can get, on a 1 and 1 deal. So like 65M split across two seasons. I think we have to stretch Anderson and still not sign anyone to have that kind of room.

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I think you definitely need to stretch Anderson, and I think that's the plan, unless he's able to be included for a good deal somewhere.
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I think you definitely need to stretch Anderson, and I think that's the plan, unless he's able to be included for a good deal somewhere.
Nobody wants the guy. I expect us to stretch him too, which is why we got him to reduce his salary guarantee.

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SO I was looking at our 5-man lineups and found some of this interesting.

* We only have 8 five-man lineups that we have used for at least 15 total minutes this year.
* Of those 8, all but 2 have a positive +/-
* But the most common (by far with 99:30 total minutes this year) is a -30.8 points/100 possessions.
* That line up is our normal starting lineup of 0-1-3-12-22

* Canaan shows up in both good and bad lineups

* Our best lineup is a +22.9, but has only played 19:21 minutes all season (1-11-25-12-22)
* This lineup out rebounds our opponent by a pretty big margin, surpisingly

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Rk                                            Lineup    MP   PTS    FG   FGA   FG%   3P   3PA   3P%  eFG%    FT   FTA   FT%  ORB  ORB%   DRB  DRB%  TRB  TRB%   AST   STL  BLK   TOV   PF
1    D. AytonD. BookerM. BridgesJ. CrawfordT. Warren 19:21 +22.9  +9.2 -15.5 +.174 +2.4  -5.8 +.200 +.195  +2.1  -0.7 +.091 -0.3  +6.7 +13.9  +6.7 +6.5 +14.3  +7.0  +0.2 -4.9  +4.9 +7.8
2       T. ArizaD. AytonD. BookerM. BridgesT. Warren 47:49 +16.2  +8.4  +2.3 +.081 +5.6  +4.9 +.133 +.111  -6.2 -12.2 +.218 -5.0 -10.9   0.0 -10.9 -2.9  -7.3  -0.8  -0.7 +3.1  -5.3 +4.9
3     T. ArizaD. AytonD. BookerM. BridgesJ. Crawford 15:28  +5.5  +4.7  -2.6 +.074 +5.7  -1.2 +.154 +.111  -9.7 -25.4 +.250 +2.8 +14.6 +13.2 +14.6 +7.7 +21.7  +8.3 -11.9 -6.1 +14.7 +3.1
4      D. AytonD. BookerM. BridgesI. CanaanT. Warren 35:03  +4.4  +0.6  +5.2 -.030 +4.3 +10.0 -.012 -.008  -1.1  +0.3 -.067 -5.5 -19.8 -11.4 -19.8 -8.3 -26.1 +10.1  +8.1 +1.4  -6.6 +0.7
5      R. AndersonT. ArizaD. AytonD. BookerI. Canaan 85:56  +3.6  -2.4  -8.8 +.020 +4.1  -2.5 +.152 +.048  +4.3  +4.5 +.058 -5.6  -8.3  +4.6  -8.3 +0.3  +0.7  -3.2  -4.6 -5.7  +7.5 -2.1
6     R. AndersonT. ArizaD. AytonI. CanaanJ. Jackson 24:30  +0.3  +1.7  -4.9 +.050 -3.9  -3.3 -.141 +.029  +0.7  +7.2 -.222 -5.9 -11.6  +0.7 -11.6 -2.1  -5.0  +5.5  -2.6 -4.3  +7.1 -1.0
7       T. ArizaD. AytonD. BookerM. BridgesI. Canaan 15:48 -12.1 -17.9 -17.7 -.121 -1.8 -11.0 +.033 -.118 +25.4 +25.4  .000 +0.8  +1.1  -1.6  +1.1 +1.6  +3.7 -13.5 -10.8 -3.9 +11.2 -4.8
8        T. ArizaD. AytonD. BookerI. CanaanT. Warren 99:31 -30.8 -12.7  -3.1 -.121 -3.2  +5.0 -.163 -.135  -2.2  -0.6 -.086 -2.7 -10.7 -11.3 -10.7 -7.0 -15.8  -5.9  -4.6 -1.5  +4.6 +1.0
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Nice to see I'm not the only who thinks Durant might come here in the offseason. Something seems like it fits for me.

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He fits everywhere.

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TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:14 pm
Nice to see I'm not the only who thinks Durant might come here in the offseason. Something seems like it fits for me.
His ego?
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Superbone wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:19 pm
TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:14 pm
Nice to see I'm not the only who thinks Durant might come here in the offseason. Something seems like it fits for me.
His ego?
Part of it. Also he seems to be good friends and have respect for Booker, Durant also seems like he still wants to do something big. Going to GS was big but not for any reason that really had any benefit for him. If he was the guy who led the Suns back to prominence he'd be hailed as a hero in Phoenix. I think he wants that, its obvious he hates being the bad guy no matter what he says to the contrary.

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Indy wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:01 pm
* Our best lineup is a +22.9, but has only played 19:21 minutes all season (1-11-25-12-22)
* This lineup out rebounds our opponent by a pretty big margin, surpisingly
14 rebounds per 100 possessions actually isn’t a very big margin when you’ve only played 19 minutes.

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Indy wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:54 pm
In2ition wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:43 pm
I think you definitely need to stretch Anderson, and I think that's the plan, unless he's able to be included for a good deal somewhere.
Nobody wants the guy. I expect us to stretch him too, which is why we got him to reduce his salary guarantee.
The only trade I could think of where Anderson could be included would be for Wall, if Washington is really trying to get rid of him and the contract.
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In2ition wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:29 pm
Indy wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:54 pm
In2ition wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:43 pm
I think you definitely need to stretch Anderson, and I think that's the plan, unless he's able to be included for a good deal somewhere.
Nobody wants the guy. I expect us to stretch him too, which is why we got him to reduce his salary guarantee.
The only trade I could think of where Anderson could be included would be for Wall, if Washington is really trying to get rid of him and the contract.
I'd rather stick with Point Booker. (cant believe i'm saying that) No way would I tie up that kind of money in a PG who hasnt led his team anywhere.

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Indy wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:01 pm
SO I was looking at our 5-man lineups and found some of this interesting.

* We only have 8 five-man lineups that we have used for at least 1total minutes this year.
* Of those 8, all but 2 have a positive +/-
* But the most common (by far with 99:30 total minutes this year) is a -30.8 points/100 possessions.
* That line up is our normal starting lineup of 0-1-3-12-22

* Canaan shows up in both good and bad lineups

* Our best lineup is a +22.9, but has only played 19:21 minutes all season (1-11-25-12-22)
* This lineup out rebounds our opponent by a pretty big margin, surpisingly

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Rk                                            Lineup    MP   PTS    FG   FGA   FG%   3P   3PA   3P%  eFG%    FT   FTA   FT%  ORB  ORB%   DRB  DRB%  TRB  TRB%   AST   STL  BLK   TOV   PF
1    D. AytonD. BookerM. BridgesJ. CrawfordT. Warren 19:21 +22.9  +9.2 -15.5 +.174 +2.4  -5.8 +.200 +.195  +2.1  -0.7 +.091 -0.3  +6.7 +13.9  +6.7 +6.5 +14.3  +7.0  +0.2 -4.9  +4.9 +7.8
2       T. ArizaD. AytonD. BookerM. BridgesT. Warren 47:49 +16.2  +8.4  +2.3 +.081 +5.6  +4.9 +.133 +.111  -6.2 -12.2 +.218 -5.0 -10.9   0.0 -10.9 -2.9  -7.3  -0.8  -0.7 +3.1  -5.3 +4.9
3     T. ArizaD. AytonD. BookerM. BridgesJ. Crawford 15:28  +5.5  +4.7  -2.6 +.074 +5.7  -1.2 +.154 +.111  -9.7 -25.4 +.250 +2.8 +14.6 +13.2 +14.6 +7.7 +21.7  +8.3 -11.9 -6.1 +14.7 +3.1
4      D. AytonD. BookerM. BridgesI. CanaanT. Warren 35:03  +4.4  +0.6  +5.2 -.030 +4.3 +10.0 -.012 -.008  -1.1  +0.3 -.067 -5.5 -19.8 -11.4 -19.8 -8.3 -26.1 +10.1  +8.1 +1.4  -6.6 +0.7
5      R. AndersonT. ArizaD. AytonD. BookerI. Canaan 85:56  +3.6  -2.4  -8.8 +.020 +4.1  -2.5 +.152 +.048  +4.3  +4.5 +.058 -5.6  -8.3  +4.6  -8.3 +0.3  +0.7  -3.2  -4.6 -5.7  +7.5 -2.1
6     R. AndersonT. ArizaD. AytonI. CanaanJ. Jackson 24:30  +0.3  +1.7  -4.9 +.050 -3.9  -3.3 -.141 +.029  +0.7  +7.2 -.222 -5.9 -11.6  +0.7 -11.6 -2.1  -5.0  +5.5  -2.6 -4.3  +7.1 -1.0
7       T. ArizaD. AytonD. BookerM. BridgesI. Canaan 15:48 -12.1 -17.9 -17.7 -.121 -1.8 -11.0 +.033 -.118 +25.4 +25.4  .000 +0.8  +1.1  -1.6  +1.1 +1.6  +3.7 -13.5 -10.8 -3.9 +11.2 -4.8
8        T. ArizaD. AytonD. BookerI. CanaanT. Warren 99:31 -30.8 -12.7  -3.1 -.121 -3.2  +5.0 -.163 -.135  -2.2  -0.6 -.086 -2.7 -10.7 -11.3 -10.7 -7.0 -15.8  -5.9  -4.6 -1.5  +4.6 +1.0
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Booker, Bridges, and Ayton apart of the top 4 lineups

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TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:14 pm
Nice to see I'm not the only who thinks Durant might come here in the offseason. Something seems like it fits for me.
There is absolutely no chance of that happening. Maybe on the old Suns who had the strong reputation of Colangelo for being a top class organization that took care of his players. Not under Sarver; not with a rookie coach; not to the worst team in the West. No way, no how.

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"Anyone who even tries to mention Durant possibly coming to Suns will be permanently banned from this site!" - Mgmt
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Split T wrote:
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Demetrius Jackson is on a two-way deal with philly. Alan Williams also signed a two-way contract. We can’t just pick those guys up. We could give Juwan Evans a shot.
Thank you so much for correcting me, Split. I don't know how to read the G-League statistics site. I thought it said Undrafted for Jackson which meant he wasn't on a contract with anyone but I guess it just means if he was drafted or not, the other stuff just isn't listed. Philly sure has a lot of PG options. I think Evans suffers from Ulis' problem of being too short?
Ya I just googled him because I was curious. His numbers are real impressive.
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Split T wrote:
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Ya I just googled him because I was curious. His numbers are real impressive.
Evans does look bigger than Ulis. Any chance he's actually 6' tall?

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Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
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TheOriginalOriginal wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:14 pm
Nice to see I'm not the only who thinks Durant might come here in the offseason. Something seems like it fits for me.
There is absolutely no chance of that happening. Maybe on the old Suns who had the strong reputation of Colangelo for being a top class organization that took care of his players. Not under Sarver; not with a rookie coach; not to the worst team in the West. No way, no how.
Unless it does.

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ayton is breaking away from the pack

http://bkref.com/tiny/wnti8

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I want to believe !
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