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A bunch of Kelly apologists.

I'll be honest, I could see the Suns trading him this summer.

In2ition wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:33 pm

I'll be honest, I could see the Suns trading him this summer.

Good riddance

You'll miss him when he's gone!

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:48 pm

In2ition wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:33 pm

I'll be honest, I could see the Suns trading him this summer.

Good riddance

Not a fan of the head bob?

In2ition wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:44 pm

specialsauce wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:48 pm

In2ition wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:33 pm

I'll be honest, I could see the Suns trading him this summer.

Good riddance

Not a fan of the head bob?

Sit down, grab a beer, this rant could take a while...

ShelC wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:39 pm

If he hasn't had time to properly rehab with the trainers, it's legit. Can't just jump right back to playing full speed off an injury no matter how much time he's had post surgery. Plus he's heading to FA. I'm not surprised in the least.

I totally agree and it's what I was speculating a few weeks ago. I'm glad this has already been settled several weeks before going to Orlando. My initial fear was that Oubre and the organization would be at odds over his ability to play up until they start games, which would've soured their relationship and created tension among the rest of the team.

I'm glad the Suns are playing in Orlando. It's participation trophy kind of satisfaction, but it's still better than not going at all. That doesn't mean I think they'll play more than the "regular season" games, so risking the health of any player in this situation would be comically short-sighted.

I'm not exactly clear on the rules with roster additions. Would we look to add someone to the roster? I think you can carry 17 to Orlando but would Oubre count even if he's not playing? Would we take Lecque? A different vet like JCraw?

I think you can carry 17, so your 15 active, plus both 2-ways. I think you can also replace any injured player, so we may get an 18th spot to replace Oubre. Do we even have 2 2-way guys? We’ve got Owens but I think we released Jared Harper?

Lecque is part of the 15-man roster, so he can come for sure. Crawford would make sense if he’s in shape. But a bigger wing would also be helpful. What is Troy Williams up to? He was on our summer league team once, he’s bounced around a bit and put up ok numbers, just hasn’t been able to stick. I kinda liked him though.

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:03 pm

ShelC wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:39 pm

If he hasn't had time to properly rehab with the trainers, it's legit. Can't just jump right back to playing full speed off an injury no matter how much time he's had post surgery. Plus he's heading to FA. I'm not surprised in the least.

I totally agree and it's what I was speculating a few weeks ago. I'm glad this has already been settled several weeks before going to Orlando. My initial fear was that Oubre and the organization would be at odds over his ability to play up until they start games, which would've soured their relationship and created tension among the rest of the team.

I'm glad the Suns are playing in Orlando. It's participation trophy kind of satisfaction, but it's still better than not going at all. That doesn't mean I think they'll play more than the "regular season" games, so risking the health of any player in this situation would be comically short-sighted.

Man, you guys have no vision. Suns get within 4 games after 8. They win the first play-in game. They win the second play-in game. They knock off the top-seeded Lakers in round one. They win a hard fought battle in the semis. Improbably, Dallas plays the Suns in the WCF. Suns win convincingly in 5 games. Suns vs Bucks in the Finals. Suns have had their number the last couple years and win in 6 and everybody talks about what a great series it was.

Split T wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:14 pm

I think you can carry 17, so your 15 active, plus both 2-ways. I think you can also replace any injured player, so we may get an 18th spot to replace Oubre. Do we even have 2 2-way guys? We’ve got Owens but I think we released Jared Harper?

Lecque is part of the 15-man roster, so he can come for sure. Crawford would make sense if he’s in shape. But a bigger wing would also be helpful. What is Troy Williams up to? He was on our summer league team once, he’s bounced around a bit and put up ok numbers, just hasn’t been able to stick. I kinda liked him though.

AFAIK, players who've not been rostered in the 2019-20 season are ineligible to be added for the remainder of the season.

So we can forget about adding Crawford or Williams.

Flagrant Fowl wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:05 pm

Split T wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:14 pm

I think you can carry 17, so your 15 active, plus both 2-ways. I think you can also replace any injured player, so we may get an 18th spot to replace Oubre. Do we even have 2 2-way guys? We’ve got Owens but I think we released Jared Harper?

Lecque is part of the 15-man roster, so he can come for sure. Crawford would make sense if he’s in shape. But a bigger wing would also be helpful. What is Troy Williams up to? He was on our summer league team once, he’s bounced around a bit and put up ok numbers, just hasn’t been able to stick. I kinda liked him though.

AFAIK, players who've not been rostered in the 2019-20 season are ineligible to be added for the remainder of the season.

So we can forget about adding Crawford or Williams.

They did originally report that, but now they are saying anyone who’s been rostered in the last 2 years is eligible. Here’s a good article that answers some questions.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsspo ... world/amp/

Looking forward to 'sauce's rant .. looking at alternatives (Harris, Love, Gallinari, Ibaka) none of them are guys I'd absolutely want instead of him at this point.

https://arizonasports.com/story/2307621 ... n-orlando/

Interestingly, Aaron Gordon wasn't mentioned in that article.

ShelC wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:35 am

Interestingly, Aaron Gordon wasn't mentioned in that article.

Wow, I thought I hated the thought of Gordon and his max contract but it's not max at all, and it's front weighted with 2 years left at $18m and $16.5m.

And there's a view that Gordon needs a creator which we've got (his stats bear this out - his best season was Elfrid Payton's last season there when he dished 6.3ast in 29 minutes. Since then it's been Augustin, with 5.3ast in 28mins last year, and Fultz with 5.2asts in 28 mins this year. Fair to say neither of those two are creators).

Looking at assists, Gordon has 3.7 a game, Kelly only 1.5 and if there was a criticism of Kelly from me it's that he goes tunnel vision too much.

Forget Kelly, make that trade already.

On that note, I wonder if it's in everyone's interest that Kelly doesn't play the rest of this season? He's our most obvious trade chip after all.

I don't mind Oubre sitting out. Players love to play, so if he feels like he can't go, I trust his judgment. We'll miss him, but we'll figure it out. We have a lot of other interchangeable forwards we can slot in.

I wonder if we start rolling, leap frog some teams and make the playoffs, would Kelly then look to return? Or is he shut down for the year officially?

Someone mentioned he was still planning to be in Orlando with the team. If that’s true he would still have to take one of the 17 roster spots and he could play if he wanted to.

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:06 am

Someone mentioned he was still planning to be in Orlando with the team. If that’s true he would still have to take one of the 17 roster spots and he could play if he wanted to.

They are keeping him fresh for the Finals, of course!!!