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5 year fully guaranteed contract...FFFFFF...
Saw this on Reddit...does this explain wtf is going on? Young - Vogel in locker room infighting? Something is going on...their chemistry can't be this bad this often...WTF...

Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:04 pm

5 year fully guaranteed contract...FFFFFF...
Saw this on Reddit...does this explain wtf is going on? Young - Vogel in locker room infighting? Something is going on...their chemistry can't be this bad this often...WTF...

If "Money is no object" here's Ishbia's chance to prove it.

IT now has two minutes after we're down 23 with 6-7 minutes left...wtf wait until things suck and no time is left to change the mix? Something is rotten here...wtf. He wants fired so he can go fishing with his $31M...bastich...

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:59 pm

They're suck in that "dribble around on the perimeter and run down the clock" mode.

Allen and Gordon are a combined 2/17 on 3's.

Gordon has 6 points on 10 FGA. You can't convince me IT can't do better than that.

It’s easy to look at the box score of somebody who had a bad game and say, “The coach shouldn’t have played him.” The coach doesn’t have the luxury of being able to do that before deciding whom to play. If it had been IT playing ahead of Gordon and getting 6 points on 10 FGA, I suspect you’d have complained about that choice too.

IT isn't saving this team. We have plenty of talent to win without needing a 35 yr old 5-9 scoring guard who hasn't been relevant for about 8 years now. It's a joke we even have him on a a 10 day contract. This team has deeper issues going on.

Cap...two nights ago this team blows out the Nuggets...tonight we're getting blown out and not mixing it up/giving any blow to Thad who just gave you some solid minutes and a player that might give you at least SOMETHING on the floor on a night when the team is sucking wind. You're really going to be an apologist and say Vogel is handling this well?

Cap wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:16 pm

The Bobster wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 6:59 pm

They're suck in that "dribble around on the perimeter and run down the clock" mode.

Allen and Gordon are a combined 2/17 on 3's.

Gordon has 6 points on 10 FGA. You can't convince me IT can't do better than that.

It’s easy to look at the box score of somebody who had a bad game and say, “The coach shouldn’t have played him.” The coach doesn’t have the luxury of being able to do that before deciding whom to play. If it had been IT playing ahead of Gordon and getting 6 points on 10 FGA, I suspect you’d have complained about that choice too.

But if something isn't working at some point you have to look at doing something different. Gordon has been pretty underwhelming for much of the year and he was having another one of those games. What have you got to lose in trying someone else?

ShelC wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:20 pm

IT isn't saving this team. We have plenty of talent to win without needing a 35 yr old 5-9 scoring guard who hasn't been relevant for about 8 years now. It's a joke we even have him on a a 10 day contract. This team has deeper issues going on.

I don't think that's the point Shel...they're getting their asses handed to them tonight...at least if he was involving what he has to draw on he's TRYING. Thad has zero minutes tonight...could it have been any worse? Come on...

Definition of Crazy...doing the same thing over again and expecting a different outcome...

ShelC wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:20 pm

IT isn't saving this team. We have plenty of talent to win without needing a 35 yr old 5-9 scoring guard who hasn't been relevant for about 8 years now. It's a joke we even have him on a a 10 day contract. This team has deeper issues going on.

Apparenly we don't have enought talent to just win it on talent.

If they just go out there and give an inconsistant effort for three quarters it's probably time to try some new things when Gordon, ALlen or O'Neal has another of those game where they just disappear let's hold them accountable.

Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:24 pm

Definition of Crazy...doing the same thing over again and expecting a different outcome...

How well has “Fire the coach!” worked for us the last half dozen times?

Cap wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:26 pm

Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:24 pm

Definition of Crazy...doing the same thing over again and expecting a different outcome...

How well has “Fire the coach!” worked for us the last half dozen times?

Doesn't that depend on if the Coach IS the problem? There was evidence of a split locker room earlier in the season...if there is some infighting going on, it might explain this psychotic mix in effort and consistency we're seeing. If it is, that needs addressed...if its a Young/Vogel thing, let's pick one and move on. This just doesn't seem like a 'normal' situation with the team on some night just shutting it down for a quarter or odd games...this is whacked. We just lost by 25! tonight...after pummeling the Nuggets. Something is whacked.

Glad I didn't watch this one. Had a great time while my 4 year old has been learning how to ride her bike. Took a peek at the box score when we first went down 20. Lost all faith then and there.

Appears I picked another good one to skip

Cap wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:26 pm

Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:24 pm

Definition of Crazy...doing the same thing over again and expecting a different outcome...

How well has “Fire the coach!” worked for us the last half dozen times?

Worked pretty well with Terry Porter and Igor..

Split T wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:39 pm

Appears I picked another good one to skip

It's honestly easier just to not watch. I saw Foster was the ref and decided early that I was gonna do something else.

Cap wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:26 pm

Vladimir_Taltos wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2024 7:24 pm

Definition of Crazy...doing the same thing over again and expecting a different outcome...

How well has “Fire the coach!” worked for us the last half dozen times?

Shit offense. Shit defense. Shit consistency and effort. Shit accountability. I'd say this coaching staff has been a real disaster with this roster.

Yeah I really can't see any reason to keep Vogel. His Mickey Mouse title doesn't move me, he wasn't good when that team had some issues, he was bad in Orlando too. I just don't see why they'd bring him back.

I’m not quite sure why he was brought in anyhow. Nick nurse or the assistant they’re currently paying as a head coach.

I wish we lost to Denver too so we can fire Vogel sooner than later.