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Re: Around the League: Week of 3/30 - 4/05

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:08 pm
by INFORMER
Yeah, with his propensity for injury, you can't give him more than a one year deal guarantee, and even that may be a waste if he's looking for a large annual salary. He still can play, he just gets injured SO MUCH.

Re: Around the League: Week of 3/30 - 4/05

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:43 pm
by Shabazz
I think he can be had at a discount precisely because of his injury history.

He's exactly the kind of player we're looking for. Great rebounder, very good defender (both team and individual) and an underrated passer. That gets lost because of how much time he's missed and who he plays for.

He'd be a great project for our training staff.

Re: Around the League: Week of 3/30 - 4/05

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:02 pm
by SwingMan
Shabazz wrote:I think he can be had at a discount precisely because of his injury history.

He's exactly the kind of player we're looking for. Great rebounder, very good defender (both team and individual) and an underrated passer. That gets lost because of how much time he's missed and who he plays for.

He'd be a great project for our training staff.
I take it you're done with Len?

Re: Around the League: Week of 3/30 - 4/05

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:07 pm
by INFORMER
Or Plumlee?

Re: Around the League: Week of 3/30 - 4/05

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:12 pm
by Phoenix219
Plumlee hit the "rookie" wall, but I am far from done with him. He's a quiet, unspoken key to team success.

Re: Around the League: Week of 3/30 - 4/05

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:25 pm
by SwingMan
INFORMER wrote:Or Plumlee?
Shoot - I just took it for granted that Plumlee was generally somewhat beyond reproach in that aspect, but, seeing as how Varejao's more established, good point.

I was leary of Len initially, but, considering the circumstances (youth, no training camp etc.), he's shown me enough to warrant a few more years worth of slack.

Re: Around the League: Week of 3/30 - 4/05

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:26 pm
by SwingMan
Phoenix219 wrote:Plumlee hit the "rookie" wall, but I am far from done with him. He's a quiet, unspoken key to team success.
Plus, he was trying to play through a banged-up knee for a stretch.

Re: Around the League: Week of 3/30 - 4/05

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:54 pm
by Shabazz
Not done with Len or Plumlee in the least. But who knows what will happen this offseason?

Re: Around the League: Week of 3/30 - 4/05

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:38 pm
by SDC
if marc gasol is available... or the mercurial demarcus cousins.

Re: Around the League: Week of 3/30 - 4/05

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:46 pm
by TOO
SDC wrote:if marc gasol is available... or the mercurial demarcus cousins.
I know he's a giant baby, but I'd be all over DMC, he's putting it together. Plus we wouldn't have to watch him beat on us anymore...

Re: Around the League: Week of 3/30 - 4/05

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:17 pm
by SDC
i hope cousins becomes toxic in sactown, so the suns can trade for him cheaper.

Re: Around the League: Week of 3/30 - 4/05

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:21 am
by Mori Chu
DeMarcus is scary to me. Great potential, but a grade-A knucklehead. You can blame some of that on the crappy situation he's in, but will he really respect the Suns staff and Jeff Hornacek, and our other players? I don't know whether he'd be a good fit here.

Re: Around the League: Week of 3/30 - 4/05

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:57 am
by Ring_Wanted
Maybe winning does him well. It wouldn't be the first time. But I think talking about cousins is as absurd as discussing John Wall, for instance.

By the way, regarding Varejao, I absolutely love his game, but I'm afraid he is too injury prone to invest significant money. His age is not a huge concern to me, as this team could use one veteran who has been real places before, but signing him to what he would probably command really scares me, so I think we should look elsewhere.

Anyway, it's obvious that we need better interior defense and rebounding. When Miles was not exhausted he actually protected the rim a ton, but right now Markieff, Frye and him make an awful interior rotation on that side of the court.

Re: Around the League: Week of 3/30 - 4/05

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:37 am
by Shabazz
Ring_Wanted wrote: By the way, regarding Varejao, I absolutely love his game, but I'm afraid he is too injury prone to invest significant money. His age is not a huge concern to me, as this team could use one veteran who has been real places before, but signing him to what he would probably command really scares me, so I think we should look elsewhere.
I really don't think 31-year old, injury prone, Anderson Varejao is going to command either a lot of $ or a lot of years.

Re: Around the League: Week of 3/30 - 4/05

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:08 pm
by Mori Chu
Shabazz wrote:I really don't think 31-year old, injury prone, Anderson Varejao is going to command either a lot of $ or a lot of years.
There aren't a lot of great FAs, and big men almost always get overpaid. Some GM is still in love with Andy from his glory days in Cleveland, and he'll make a big offer for him. Varejao won't come cheap.

Re: Around the League: Week of 3/30 - 4/05

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:52 pm
by carey
I really don't know what to make of Miles at this point. We are a far better team late in games going small with Kieff at Center.