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Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:41 am
by Mori Chu
Happy for DA. I hope he figures things out.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:06 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
I hope he keeps stealing cap space from opponents.

Maybe I’m selfish.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:30 pm
by specialsauce
Lol mediocre as fuck stats called dominating now

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:31 pm
by TOO
specialsauce wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:30 pm
Lol mediocre as fuck stats called dominating now
Insane right?

Imagine if Booker was only averaging 20 a game. He'd be called an albatross, just like our very own Bradley Beal.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:38 pm
by JeremyG
TOO wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:31 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:30 pm
Lol mediocre as fuck stats called dominating now
Insane right?

Imagine if Booker was only averaging 20 a game. He'd be called an albatross, just like our very own Bradley Beal.
Those are supermax contracts not max.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:05 pm
by Flagrant Fowl
I like Beal and have no reason not to so far. He’s played like 20 games.

But he is similar to Ayton in the sense that he’s probably taking up more of the cap than necesssry for someone in his role. The upside is that he could completely flip and he’s a playoff series winner like Ayton was pre-max. We’ll just have to find out this spring.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:01 pm
by TOO
JeremyG wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:38 pm
TOO wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:31 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:30 pm
Lol mediocre as fuck stats called dominating now
Insane right?

Imagine if Booker was only averaging 20 a game. He'd be called an albatross, just like our very own Bradley Beal.
Those are supermax contracts not max.
You sir, can choke on your semantics.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:32 pm
by Superbone
Flagrant Fowl wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:05 pm
I like Beal and have no reason not to so far. He’s played like 20 games.

But he is similar to Ayton in the sense that he’s probably taking up more of the cap than necesssry for someone in his role. The upside is that he could completely flip and he’s a playoff series winner like Ayton was pre-max. We’ll just have to find out this spring.
The difference is we knew he wouldn't live up to his contract with two already established superstars and he also doesn't brag about dominating the game constantly.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:44 pm
by JeremyG
TOO wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 2:01 pm
JeremyG wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:38 pm
TOO wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:31 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:30 pm
Lol mediocre as fuck stats called dominating now
Insane right?

Imagine if Booker was only averaging 20 a game. He'd be called an albatross, just like our very own Bradley Beal.
Those are supermax contracts not max.
You sir, can choke on your semantics.
It’s not semantics. It’s literally a huge salary difference.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:44 pm
by JeremyG
TOO wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:10 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:08 pm
TOO wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:01 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:15 pm
As much as we complained about Ayton, at least we didn't draft Ben Simmons!
Ben Simmons has been an all-star and all NBA.
Roy Hibbert is a 2 time ALL-STAR. Come on now
He was all all NBA, don't forget that. Ayton has zero career accomplishments. Zero.
All-Rookie first team. And he would have had a Conference Finals MVP if they had invented the award one year earlier (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/th ... ys-had-it/).

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:22 am
by Kryptonic
JeremyG wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2024 10:44 pm
TOO wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:10 pm
specialsauce wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:08 pm
TOO wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:01 pm
Superbone wrote:
Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:15 pm
As much as we complained about Ayton, at least we didn't draft Ben Simmons!
Ben Simmons has been an all-star and all NBA.
Roy Hibbert is a 2 time ALL-STAR. Come on now
He was all all NBA, don't forget that. Ayton has zero career accomplishments. Zero.
All-Rookie first team. And he would have had a Conference Finals MVP if they had invented the award one year earlier (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/th ... ys-had-it/).
Big whoop….. it’s basically conciliation for not being good enough for rookie of the year.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:25 am
by Split T
He wouldn’t have been conference finals mvp either

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:35 am
by Kryptonic
Split T wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:25 am
He wouldn’t have been conference finals mvp either
Let the kid dream

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:44 am
by Split T
I guess it’s slightly possible because CP3 missed the first two games, but I still think he probably would’ve gotten it after he buried the clippers with that game 6 performance.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:49 pm
by JeremyG
Take it up with FiveThirtyEight. :P I know of no other more objective source for determining who would have won.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:58 pm
by Split T
It’s a media award…you think the media would’ve voted Ayton after that game 6 from CP3?

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:09 pm
by JeremyG
Typically it would probably be unlikely even if CP3 hadn’t had a spectacular series until that game, but the fact that he missed two games and it’s a series award makes me think differently.

Also, it depends on the timing of the voting. A lot of his points came towards the end of the game, when most voters may have already cast their vote. In other words, they wouldn’t have known he was going to end up with a 40-point game if they had voted at the beginning of the 4th quarter, when it was already pretty much a blowout.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:49 pm
by Split T
Do they vote before the series is over? That’s weird.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:50 pm
by Superbone
I can't believe this conversation about a 2+ year old award that didn't exist.

Re: All Things Ayton

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:12 pm
by TOO
Superbone wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:50 pm
I can't believe this conversation about a 2+ year old award that didn't exist.
This your first time here?