Re: Suns News: Week 19 4/26-5/2
Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 6:24 am
I laugh reading some of these comments and then wasn't sure which is mine
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I really think Eddie does a pretty good job on the broadcasts. I think Kevin sucks, but I am just spoiled because I know what play-by-play can be. And honestly, in the age of HDTV, it seems basketball play-by-play isn't around much anymore. Even when I used to watch league pass all the time, it seemed most guys talk about other stuff and then throw in some plays. I guess it is more of "this is something that happened recently" as opposed to "this is nearly everything going on right now."bajanguy008 wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 6:24 amI laugh reading some of these comments and then wasn't sure which is mine
Yes! Another excellent book that I read as well.BKinSJC wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 12:23 amI read Joe Gilmartin's "The Little Team That Could" until my copy fell apart, so I know at least everything that was in that book about the early years of the franchise. Seems to be out of print now, it's a shame.Superbone wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 11:58 pmYeah, very light on the early years of the franchise. Mostly due to ignorance and unwillingness to do any research. I read the book “Foul!” as a kid that told Hawkins’ life story up until finally making into the NBA and the Suns in his later, past prime, years.LazarusLong wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 9:45 pmAnd no mention of the Connie Hawkins signing, which catapulted the Suns from a uninteresting expansion team into a national story.
Hawk was a mythic figure who had previously operated in the Twilight Zone of pro basketball ... ABL and startup ABA.
Yeah, I really enjoy listening to Eddie. Great sense of humor and he really enjoys the team. He might be a little repetitive about what he talks about but I don't care. Like I said, I always enjoy his commentary.Indy wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 9:45 amI really think Eddie does a pretty good job on the broadcasts. I think Kevin sucks, but I am just spoiled because I know what play-by-play can be. And honestly, in the age of HDTV, it seems basketball play-by-play isn't around much anymore. Even when I used to watch league pass all the time, it seemed most guys talk about other stuff and then throw in some plays. I guess it is more of "this is something that happened recently" as opposed to "this is nearly everything going on right now."bajanguy008 wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 6:24 amI laugh reading some of these comments and then wasn't sure which is mine
Lowe is usually better than this. Most knowledgeable fans gave up chasing Doncic a long time ago. The barometer is greatness. The barometer is wanting the "generational talent" to be MTARP (More Than a Role Player).A glance at Ayton's numbers would suggest a disappointing third season, and if the barometer is Luka Doncic, Ayton will always be something of a disappointment. Ayton's scoring is down, and he still doesn't get to the line as much as a behemoth should.
But if you watch, you know he's better -- polished, under control, and a little mean when he needs to be. Ayton remains one of the league's critical swing players -- the only traditional big in the Phoenix Suns' rotation, and the wild card who can propel them toward the championship now and later.
That's actually been for the better. And he's busted it our recently and it looks much improved.
Did he have as many games where he just didn’t do anything?
Wondering what you're thinking now that Ayton's shown that he gets up for the playoffs. I still wonder if we'll see slow-bro Ayton at times in the regular season going forward. But I don't really care if we can get this Ayton in the playoffs.INFORMER wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 12:55 pmLowe is usually better than this. Most knowledgeable fans gave up chasing Doncic a long time ago. The barometer is greatness. The barometer is wanting the "generational talent" to be MTARP (More Than a Role Player).A glance at Ayton's numbers would suggest a disappointing third season, and if the barometer is Luka Doncic, Ayton will always be something of a disappointment. Ayton's scoring is down, and he still doesn't get to the line as much as a behemoth should.
But if you watch, you know he's better -- polished, under control, and a little mean when he needs to be. Ayton remains one of the league's critical swing players -- the only traditional big in the Phoenix Suns' rotation, and the wild card who can propel them toward the championship now and later.
Certainly, there are aspects of Ayton's game that are better, but there are also aspects of his game that have regressed. Add it all together, and you have a player that isn't where he should be.
There was lots of pre-drug scandal history that they overlooked -Superbone wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 11:58 pmYeah, very light on the early years of the franchise. Mostly due to ignorance and unwillingness to do any research. I read the book “Foul!” as a kid that told Hawkins’ life story up until finally making into the NBA and the Suns in his later, past prime, years.LazarusLong wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 9:45 pmAnd no mention of the Connie Hawkins signing, which catapulted the Suns from a uninteresting expansion team into a national story.
Hawk was a mythic figure who had previously operated in the Twilight Zone of pro basketball ... ABL and startup ABA.
Nance was my favorite player back in the day. And the Suns traded him. But the trade brought us Kevin Johnson, Mark West and a draft pick that turned out to be Dan Majerle. These 3 players were the building blocks for the 92-93 team, so not a bad trade.The Bobster wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:48 amThere was lots of pre-drug scandal history that they overlooked -Superbone wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 11:58 pmYeah, very light on the early years of the franchise. Mostly due to ignorance and unwillingness to do any research. I read the book “Foul!” as a kid that told Hawkins’ life story up until finally making into the NBA and the Suns in his later, past prime, years.LazarusLong wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 9:45 pmAnd no mention of the Connie Hawkins signing, which catapulted the Suns from a uninteresting expansion team into a national story.
Hawk was a mythic figure who had previously operated in the Twilight Zone of pro basketball ... ABL and startup ABA.
- the Suns vs. the Lakers in the 1970 playoffs
- the trip to the 1979 Western Conference Finals against Seattle
- star players like Paul Silas, Gail Goodrich, Charlie Scott, Walter Davis, Dick Van Arsdale, Connie Hawkins, Alvan Adams, Dennis Johnson, Larry Nance, etc. who rarely get mention nowadays.
- Jerry Colangelo's two stints as interim coach & Cotton Fitzsimmons' first tenure.
Don't forget Tyrone Corbin too. He was a good player for us but yeah, I believe he was gone before the title run.SunsRIt wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:54 amNance was my favorite player back in the day. And the Suns traded him. But the trade brought us Kevin Johnson, Mark West and a draft pick that turned out to be Dan Majerle. These 3 players were the building blocks for the 92-93 team, so not a bad trade.The Bobster wrote: ↑Wed Jun 23, 2021 5:48 amThere was lots of pre-drug scandal history that they overlooked -Superbone wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 11:58 pmYeah, very light on the early years of the franchise. Mostly due to ignorance and unwillingness to do any research. I read the book “Foul!” as a kid that told Hawkins’ life story up until finally making into the NBA and the Suns in his later, past prime, years.LazarusLong wrote: ↑Sat May 01, 2021 9:45 pmAnd no mention of the Connie Hawkins signing, which catapulted the Suns from a uninteresting expansion team into a national story.
Hawk was a mythic figure who had previously operated in the Twilight Zone of pro basketball ... ABL and startup ABA.
- the Suns vs. the Lakers in the 1970 playoffs
- the trip to the 1979 Western Conference Finals against Seattle
- star players like Paul Silas, Gail Goodrich, Charlie Scott, Walter Davis, Dick Van Arsdale, Connie Hawkins, Alvan Adams, Dennis Johnson, Larry Nance, etc. who rarely get mention nowadays.
- Jerry Colangelo's two stints as interim coach & Cotton Fitzsimmons' first tenure.
If you are interested in reading about early Suns history the book “ The Little Team That Could... And Darn Near Did! The Famous Rise of the Phoenix Suns” by Joe Gilmartin is a good read. I read it a long time ago(mid ‘80s).