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Shabazz wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:29 pm

I’d love if Jalen Johnson slid, but I don’t see him making it to 29.

Split T wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:23 am

I haven’t looked at any bigs, and I barely looked at the guards, but here’s my thoughts on our pick…

Jared Butler is the guy I want the most, but I don’t think he’ll be there. He’s the most complete guard of the ones that could potentially be available. He can shoot off the dribble and off the catch, he can run some offense, he can defend. He’s a little small, so I’m not sure he’s a switchable defender, but he’s not a big liability.

I don’t even know who I like the most of the other guys, maybe typing this out will help me decide. The skills I’m looking for are shooting, specifically pull-up shooting, playmaking potential, and defense. Don’t think any of the guards besides Butler provide all 3.

Tre Mann has the pull up shooting. He’s got a good handle and can get to his shots…he’s probably the best pull-up shooter in the draft. I believe he’s a sophomore, but a young sophomore. He grew this last year and could potentially still be growing. He’s ok as a playmaker. Capable of simple reads, but he’s not a pg at the moment. Not a great finisher, good floater, but struggles getting to the rim. Defense is a question mark.

Bones Hyland is probably the next best pull-up shooter…deep, deep range as he pulls from anywhere. He’s quicker than Mann and a better finisher. Didn’t watch a lot, but I didn’t see much playmaking and he’s quite small..165 lbs. I got a lot of Lou Williams vibes.

Miles McBride is a West Virginia pg and gets some Jevon Carter comparisons. Defensive menace, but a little small at 6’2, and not really a pg. 6’8 wingspan though. Carter with a little more shooting as he can make pull-up 3s, though not at the level of the previous 2.

Jaden Springer is a bigger guard…maybe more scorer than playmaker at the moment, but he’s got the potential to play the point. Calling card is defense, he’s great there and he’s pretty good getting to the rim. He’s strong attacking the rim, although not an explosive athlete. Shot a good percentage from 3, but on very limited attempts. He’s not a pull-up shooter at the moment. Maybe some Malcolm Brogdon potential if the shot comes around.

Josh Primo is a little bigger, can shoot a little, and has more defensive chops than Mann and Hyland. Honestly I didn’t watch this guy much and wasn’t that impressed with what I saw. He’s young though and there’s talk he would be a lot higher next year after another year of seasoning.

Ayo Dosunmo is a bigger guard, he attacks the rim well and Can defend multiple positions. Just ok as a shooter. Not a pg, but can make some plays. He’s a 3 year guy. I feel he’s a plug and play type guy, but maybe not a high ceiling. Think he could step into the role Nader played for us as a bigger guard that can attack the rim and play some defense.

Jason Preston is the most skilled of these guys. He’s a fantastic shooter and passer. Top 3 passer in this draft. He’s a lot of fun and would be a lottery pick if he had just average athleticism. I have no idea if he’s going to cut it as an athlete in the nba, but he’s intriguing.

I probably forgot someone, but after all that, I think I’m leaning Tre Mann after Jared Butler. His pull up shooting is just fantastic and I think would add another dimension to our offense. I think he’s shown enough playmaking that I’d be hopeful he could develop into a guy that can run a little offense. Probably never a primary creator, but there’s also a little hope he gets a bit bigger and can defend the 2.

So Jared Butler, Tre Mann…then I’ll go Jaden Springer and Bones Hyland.

Shabazz wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:49 am

Here are some facts:

We need big man help immediately
Big men take longer to develop
We drafted a big last year and may need to get him some development minutes
Our window to compete is now
Typical expected performance for a 29th pick in their rookie year is low to nil, especially on a contending team

All of this leads me to believe that we won’t look to “solve” the big man need with this pick. In fact, I don’t know that we can solve any immediate need with this pick so all options should be on the table: trade, BPA, etc.