Around the League: Offseason

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LazarusLong wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:58 am
Lillard has had better talent around him, and a better organization.
Booker was performing in a shit-show up to now ...
For their careers I would agree with this. Not last year though. With all the injuries, I think Booker had a better supporting cast than Lillard. Though I think the bubble suns were clearly better than the bubble blazers..just started too far behind.

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Split T wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:18 am
LazarusLong wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:58 am
Lillard has had better talent around him, and a better organization.
Booker was performing in a shit-show up to now ...
For their careers I would agree with this. Not last year though. With all the injuries, I think Booker had a better supporting cast than Lillard. Though I think the bubble suns were clearly better than the bubble blazers..just started too far behind.
Saw a tweet that said since 2015, Dame hasn't had a single one of these on his team to help him:

MVP
All-star
All-NBA
DPOY
6th man
ROY
All-rookie
COY

Yet he leads his team to the playoffs every year.

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CJ's as good a #2 as you'll find IMO and Nurk turned into a very good big. They haven't figured out the SF/PF position tho so that's always been a weakness. Stotts has also done as good a job as any coach could've too IMO. So it's not like they've been lacking a ton of talent or had instability with the FO and coaching. It's really their draft picks (or lack thereof) which have been holding the team back from taking another step.

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CJ is on the short list of best players never named an all-star. But I don’t know if I’d call him one of the best #2’s. He’s been on par with say Jamal Murray, but Murray was better this year. I think Lakers, Clippers, Nuggets, Suns, and Jazz all have better #2’s than Portland. Dallas is close, it’s probably KP if healthy. Nurkic is good, he just hasn’t been healthy. They do finally seem to have that 3/4 situation figured out with Covington/Hood/Jones Jr/Melo. Collins and Trent too.

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Split T wrote:
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CJ is on the short list of best players never named an all-star. But I don’t know if I’d call him one of the best #2’s. He’s been on par with say Jamal Murray, but Murray was better this year. I think Lakers, Clippers, Nuggets, Suns, and Jazz all have better #2’s than Portland. Dallas is close, it’s probably KP if healthy. Nurkic is good, he just hasn’t been healthy. They do finally seem to have that 3/4 situation figured out with Covington/Hood/Jones Jr/Melo. Collins and Trent too.
So who does Booker think is our #2? And who does Paul think is our #2? And who does Ayton think is our #2?

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According to Jones in the presser, Chris Paul and Booker have established NBA identities, and the rest of the team has not. I don't think Ayton is getting star treatment in the gym.
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Indy wrote:
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Split T wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:35 am
CJ is on the short list of best players never named an all-star. But I don’t know if I’d call him one of the best #2’s. He’s been on par with say Jamal Murray, but Murray was better this year. I think Lakers, Clippers, Nuggets, Suns, and Jazz all have better #2’s than Portland. Dallas is close, it’s probably KP if healthy. Nurkic is good, he just hasn’t been healthy. They do finally seem to have that 3/4 situation figured out with Covington/Hood/Jones Jr/Melo. Collins and Trent too.
So who does Booker think is our #2? And who does Paul think is our #2? And who does Ayton think is our #2?
We’ll see. Booker and CP3 both seem to be on the same page so far. Hopefully we don’t have issues. And Ayton doesn’t actually strike me as someone who’ll complain about being a #3. He’s got kinda the opposite problem. I think I’d actually take it as a good sign if he got upset and did something about it.

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Split T wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:28 pm
Indy wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:00 pm
Split T wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:35 am
CJ is on the short list of best players never named an all-star. But I don’t know if I’d call him one of the best #2’s. He’s been on par with say Jamal Murray, but Murray was better this year. I think Lakers, Clippers, Nuggets, Suns, and Jazz all have better #2’s than Portland. Dallas is close, it’s probably KP if healthy. Nurkic is good, he just hasn’t been healthy. They do finally seem to have that 3/4 situation figured out with Covington/Hood/Jones Jr/Melo. Collins and Trent too.
So who does Booker think is our #2? And who does Paul think is our #2? And who does Ayton think is our #2?
We’ll see. Booker and CP3 both seem to be on the same page so far. Hopefully we don’t have issues. And Ayton doesn’t actually strike me as someone who’ll complain about being a #3. He’s got kinda the opposite problem. I think I’d actually take it as a good sign if he got upset and did something about it.
He strikes me more as an Amare-type (off the court); thinks he is the 2nd coming.

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It would really suck if Schroder ends up unhappy coming off the bench for the Lakers


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If he wants to start I don’t see why they wouldn’t start him. He’s clearly their best pg

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ShelC wrote:
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I liked that trade at the time quite a bit. Unfortunate for that kid.

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It looks like the Pistons are conducting a deep cleaning up on their roster, kinda of what Jones did here last year. Not much sense on cutting a rookie contract unless you consider he is beyond redemption on or off the court. The proverbial next year were you wonder if they will keep it up/ putting it up together. Even more, some extensions (many bad ones) are granted because of that final year.

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The Pistons have had a very puzzling offseason.

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Zhaire Smith has been through a lot. Go read this article if you haven't heard about it. He had such a severe food allergy that he was in the hospital with tubes stuck in him for months:

https://www.gq.com/story/zhaire-smith-7 ... c-reaction

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Good for Elie!
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And that’s why the Nets will take the Best Backcourt award from us.

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No good on Kemba


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I feel bad for Kemba, but it couldn't happen to a nicer team.

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