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Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:14 am
by Split T
I’d even start him if need be. All 3 of Beal/Book/EG are similar sized and you’d just switch them across 1-3 defensively.

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:18 am
by INFORMER
Split T wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:14 am
I’d even start him if need be. All 3 of Beal/Book/EG are similar sized and you’d just switch them across 1-3 defensively.
Ugh, please no.

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:23 am
by Split T
Why are you opposed to that?

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:30 am
by INFORMER
I think that's a terrible defensive configuration. Gordon is strong, but he is also slowing and short. Beal isn't a plus defender. Book has made huge strides as a defender, but I don't want him to be the best defender among our 1-3 starters. I think that is an Anti-Vogel lineup.

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:04 am
by virtual9mm
INFORMER wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:18 am
Split T wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:14 am
I’d even start him if need be. All 3 of Beal/Book/EG are similar sized and you’d just switch them across 1-3 defensively.
Ugh, please no.
Dragic starting at SF.

But I would welcome EG as a sixth man, the guard lineup would be solid.

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:14 am
by Split T
INFORMER wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:30 am
I think that's a terrible defensive configuration. Gordon is strong, but he is also slowing and short. Beal isn't a plus defender. Book has made huge strides as a defender, but I don't want him to be the best defender among our 1-3 starters. I think that is an Anti-Vogel lineup.
Are you wanting more of a pg defender or another big? I guess my question is are you wanting Book/Beal at the 1/2 or 2/3?

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:20 am
by JNix
I think Book, Beal and KD will bring the ball up at different times and initiate the offense, like they did in the playoffs.

I still think we need to add another PG though.

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:34 am
by BigLewy
Funny enough, I think the ideal fit with this new star-studded lineup would be Rubio if he can fully make it back from the ACL injury. Solid defender, elite distributor, won't be needed to score much, but can keep a defense honest

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:40 am
by Split T
Ayton for Allen and Rubio

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:51 am
by Shabazz
INFORMER wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:43 am
Capela just doesn't do it for me. It never seems like he is a plus in the playoffs. He looks ok on paper, but just comes across as an overpriced mid-level big.

And I agree with JNix: Hunter isn't impressive. I know 'bazz likes him. I liked him as a draft prospect, but so far I feel like he has been a mediocre pro who was financially rewarded based on potential and not based on actually being established as an impact player. Him and Capela combined feel like $40 million that could be better used elsewhere.

If ATL is hanging on to Griffin and Okongwu in any deal, then I am not motivated to send them Ayton. I like Jalen Johnson, Bruno Fernando, and Bogdanovic, but I am just not interested in taking on any of their other pricey veterans.
I don’t love Hunter. His advanced D stats are rough and he can’t stay healthy. I just think he’d be a HUGE upgrade from whomever we’re currently looking at as a 5th starter. And I think he fits very well next to our big 3 line Shel said.

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:52 am
by Shabazz
ShelC wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:34 am
Gallo and/or Prince would be really good signings for us. Gallo's really become a plodder these days but would give us a nice shooting forward. Prince would give us that 3/4 defensive player. Plus he's a Baylor guy and we seem to love them. Fischer's article also mentions DDV as a target for the Knicks joining up with Brunson and Hart from Villanova (plus Mikal in BK)

Prince would be a great fit.

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:55 am
by Shabazz
BigLewy wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:34 am
Funny enough, I think the ideal fit with this new star-studded lineup would be Rubio if he can fully make it back from the ACL injury. Solid defender, elite distributor, won't be needed to score much, but can keep a defense honest
I think we may have a better version of that today in Jordan Goodwin.

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:55 am
by Shabazz
That Mavs trade was ass though. Not even close to decent value for Ayton.

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:22 pm
by JeremyG
Split T wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:40 am
Ayton for Allen and Rubio
This Allen? https://www.basketball-reference.com/pl ... c_playoffs

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:33 pm
by Split T
That’s the one

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:55 pm
by JeremyG
Say what you want about Ayton, but he's never had a playoffs that bad.

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:02 pm
by JNix
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:55 pm
Say what you want about Ayton, but he's never had a playoffs that bad.
Allen is 6th in TS% though ;)

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:05 pm
by Split T
JeremyG wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:55 pm
Say what you want about Ayton, but he's never had a playoffs that bad.
Besides this last one you mean?

Ayton was 13/10 with a .553 TS%, .047 WS/48 and a -3.5 BPM. -4.2 on/off rating.

Allen was 9/7 with a .608 TS%, .150 WS/48 and a 2.4 BPM. -3.5 on/off rating.

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:09 pm
by ShelC
Allen's a good regular season big but he got manhandled by the Knicks frontcourt in the playoffs.

Re: 2023 General Offseason/PostSeason League News

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:16 pm
by Split T
Kinda like Ayton got manhandled by the Clippers bigs