Page 5 of 7

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:47 am
by Split T
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:49 am
Yes, Darren Collison would be the perfect stop-gap point guard that we desperately need on this team. I would even throw in the MIL pick.
I think collison would be great, but he’d only be here half a season. I wouldn’t give up a pick for that. An Ariza-Collison swap straight up should be plenty fair.

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:48 am
by carey
Democritus wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:24 am
Dragic? Days of Future Past. No thank you. He would be injured most of his time here.
What happened to our vaunted training staff? TJ Warren is missing like 20 games a year with mystery ailments. Booker is good to miss a chunk of time too. I guess the mystique has worn off.

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:49 am
by Split T
SDC wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:58 am
I still think goran dragic is the only thing that can right this ship.
Not Lonzo?

And lets stop with the Dragic suggestions. He’s not good anymore, he’s old, always hurt, and gets paid 19 million next year. Hard pass. Unless miami is taking Anderson back.

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:52 am
by Split T
carey wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:48 am
Democritus wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:24 am
Dragic? Days of Future Past. No thank you. He would be injured most of his time here.
What happened to our vaunted training staff? TJ Warren is missing like 20 games a year with mystery ailments. Booker is good to miss a chunk of time too. I guess the mystique has worn off.
They were always better at rehabbing chronic issues. Helped Shaq get his butt muscles working, helped hill overcome his ankle issues, Michael redd I think? Booker and warren just keep getting little acute issues.

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:41 am
by LazarusLong
Split T wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:49 am
SDC wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:58 am
I still think goran dragic is the only thing that can right this ship.
Not Lonzo?

And lets stop with the Dragic suggestions. He’s not good anymore, he’s old, always hurt, and gets paid 19 million next year. Hard pass. Unless miami is taking Anderson back.
Plus, it's assuming he would want to come back to this mess, especially after he got crapped on twice.

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:48 am
by Democritus
carey wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:48 am
Democritus wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:24 am
Dragic? Days of Future Past. No thank you. He would be injured most of his time here.
What happened to our vaunted training staff? TJ Warren is missing like 20 games a year with mystery ailments. Booker is good to miss a chunk of time too. I guess the mystique has worn off.
I too think that this is not our x-factor anymore. Lately, injuries have hit our squad by storm and I guess our training staff got used to tanking too.

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:41 am
by n4th4n
carey wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:48 am
Democritus wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:24 am
Dragic? Days of Future Past. No thank you. He would be injured most of his time here.
What happened to our vaunted training staff? TJ Warren is missing like 20 games a year with mystery ailments. Booker is good to miss a chunk of time too. I guess the mystique has worn off.
I mean, they ain't dipping these dudes in the River Styx. No matter how great your training staff is, injuries are still going to happen. That's just... part of sports. And life!

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:24 am
by specialsauce
I mean look at Warren. Does he look like a dude looking to watch his diet and routine in any way? Dude has mom arms.

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:33 pm
by bajanguy008
and this scenario would leave us where exactly ?? :?

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1072932631103311872


Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:38 pm
by Split T
bajanguy008 wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:33 pm
and this scenario would leave us where exactly ?? :?

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1072932631103311872

Would have to include a 4th team. No chance we want knight back. Is Atlanta hoping for cap space next season? Something like Ariza to LA, KCP to Houston, Knight to Atlanta and Lin to Phoenix. Houston and LA also send out draft picks. Maybe we get the LA 1st, Atlanta gets Houston 1st and our 2nd.

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:41 pm
by bajanguy008
[/quote]

Would have to include a 4th team. No chance we want knight back. Is Atlanta hoping for cap space next season? Something like Ariza to LA, KCP to Houston, Knight to Atlanta and Lin to Phoenix. Houston and LA also send out draft picks. Maybe we get the LA 1st, Atlanta gets Houston 1st and our 2nd.
[/quote]

aren't 4 team trades like super complicated hence not a common thing

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:51 pm
by Split T
Sure, the more teams you add the more complicated it gets. However the trade I mentioned would work. Ariza at 15 million, Knight at 14.6 million, Lin at 13.8 million, and KCP at 12 million. Salaries are all really close and can be traded for each other.

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:56 pm
by bajanguy008
Kool man
well one thing is for certain that the speculating will soon be all over and we will be left with another wtf moment or feel a lil better about ourselves geeez lol

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:58 pm
by JeremyG
Split T wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:47 am
JeremyG wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:49 am
Yes, Darren Collison would be the perfect stop-gap point guard that we desperately need on this team. I would even throw in the MIL pick.
I think collison would be great, but he’d only be here half a season. I wouldn’t give up a pick for that. An Ariza-Collison swap straight up should be plenty fair.
I'm just saying I would throw in the pick if I had to. It would be worth it if it helps keep Booker from wanting out and/or some free agents to look at us more seriously, if we can stop the bleeding this season and start winning a few games.

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:27 pm
by bajanguy008
If this wasn't a LA reporter , I would believe this was just a report to make it seem like Suns actually trying to get good players

https://twitter.com/BA_Turner/status/1072991661213372418


Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:20 pm
by TOO
What about Ariza and Jackson 😁

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:22 pm
by Mori Chu
If we end up trading for KCP, so help me, I'm out for the season.

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:40 am
by Ring_Wanted
Ingram, Kuzma, Lonzo or Hart no available for Ariza? No shit. Just give me expiring crap and a lotto protected 1stR and be done with it. Again, so I can trade that pick or MIL's for Dinwiddie in peace.

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:35 am
by Hermen
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:22 pm
If we end up trading for KCP, so help me, I'm out for the season.
KCP can veto his trades and he'd probably veto the shit out of a trade that sends him to the Suns.

Re: Sources: Lakers trying to acquire Suns forward Trevor Ariza in a three-team deal

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:20 am
by carey
Hermen wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:35 am
Marty [Mori Chu] wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:22 pm
If we end up trading for KCP, so help me, I'm out for the season.
KCP can veto his trades and he'd probably veto the shit out of a trade that sends him to the Suns.
Great for us imo.