Game Day: Suns (17-30) @ Pacers (25-22), Wed 1/24/18

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Bender sure has failed to take advantage of his time in the starting lineup, now hasn't he.

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Hey guys, it could be worse.

https://twitter.com/jonjohnsonwip/status/956284647713001473


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Can we cut it to single digits?!

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We made them bring oladipo back in! That's something, haha

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That Fultz story is one of the strangest things.

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n4th4n wrote:Bender sure has failed to take advantage of his time in the starting lineup, now hasn't he.
His passiveness is just eating away at the team. It's very tempting to give up on him.
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n4th4n wrote:Bender sure has failed to take advantage of his time in the starting lineup, now hasn't he.
His passiveness is just eating away at the team. It's very tempting to give up on him.
Agree with both of you.

He has the talent, but he has the heart of a lamb.
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He wants to make the extra pass rather than make the actual basket. The pass would be more open if he was capable of making a basket. I wouldn't mind if down the stretch we dedicated certain games to certain players. Have a game where we tell Bender he has to put up 20 shots.

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Tyson Chandler: 0 rbs. 4 TOs and 4 fouls in 10 minutes.

Glad he's on the roster for his valuable leadership.
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Peters hustled for 5 boards in 12 minutes. Missed two shots, but was 3-3 from free throw line.
Maybe he should play more ...
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specialsauce wrote:It is absolutely time to fire Ryan
I don't know what Ryan has to do with this game. We were supposed to be bad this year
Seriously? Look at this trash of a roster he’s constructed.

You’ve got 1 great player, 1 good player, and a bunch of absolute trash outside of maybe Jackson- jury is still out on Chriss (attitude) and Bender (testicular fortitude). He IS the reason we’re this bad with absolutely no vision for the future.

Who’s our starting 4 of the future? How about our starting 1 or 5? We’ve missed the playoffs for 7 years now and we STILL only have 1 bonafide core player on this roster.

And you’re wondering what Ryan has to do with this loss?

I’m giving up on Bender. He just doesn’t have “it.” He was born without any fire. I would love more than anything an 0-10 shooting game from him with only 2 threes and 7 turnovers because he was taking it to the hole. I don’t know how someone can consistently play 20-25 mpg in a starting role and manage to put up so little on the box score and have such little effect on the game good or bad. He’s an absolute GHOST.

At least Josh is out there giving it his all. I can live with mistakes. I can’t live with Bender’s sissy ass demeanor. He makes Boris Diaw look like a chucker.

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Yeah. We were supposed to be bad this year. But the way we’ve played and from everything we’ve seen from this so-called NBA team, I don’t see us ever being good as constructed. And when you’re talking about a roster with two #4 picks and a #8 pick, having traded away a third team all nba player (Dragic), an MVP candidate (IT) and a 20/5/5 PG (Bledsoe), and this is what we’re left with......what a fucking joke. And yes, you can make arguments about the flaws of each of those players however fact is they are better than anyone on this roster is showing they can ever become.

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If Bender were playing for Pop, he'd be kicking ass. He needs the right coach.

And he's probably not going to get it in Phoenix.

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Cap wrote:If Bender were playing for Pop, he'd be kicking ass. He needs the right coach.

And he's probably not going to get it in Phoenix.
Probably true. Look at Davis freakin Bertans. Who the F is that guy?

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specialsauce wrote:
Split T wrote:
specialsauce wrote:It is absolutely time to fire Ryan
I don't know what Ryan has to do with this game. We were supposed to be bad this year
Seriously? Look at this trash of a roster he’s constructed.

You’ve got 1 great player, 1 good player, and a bunch of absolute trash outside of maybe Jackson- jury is still out on Chriss (attitude) and Bender (testicular fortitude). He IS the reason we’re this bad with absolutely no vision for the future.

Who’s our starting 4 of the future? How about our starting 1 or 5? We’ve missed the playoffs for 7 years now and we STILL only have 1 bonafide core player on this roster.

And you’re wondering what Ryan has to do with this loss?

I’m giving up on Bender. He just doesn’t have “it.” He was born without any fire. I would love more than anything an 0-10 shooting game from him with only 2 threes and 7 turnovers because he was taking it to the hole. I don’t know how someone can consistently play 20-25 mpg in a starting role and manage to put up so little on the box score and have such little effect on the game good or bad. He’s an absolute GHOST.

At least Josh is out there giving it his all. I can live with mistakes. I can’t live with Bender’s sissy ass demeanor. He makes Boris Diaw look like a chucker.
Haha, didn't mean to set you off. I know you don't like our team and I won't argue that. I just think this game was more about our players, outside of Monroe and Jackson, playing well below their norm.

McD hasn't put a good product out there yet and he deserves a lot of blame but you can't look at this like it's been building for 5 years with nothing to show. We've basically had two teams. The way overachieving dragic-bledsoe squad that added IT and fell apart. We broke that team up and started over. This new squad is in year 3 and to expect them to be a playoff team is just silly.

I wish Bender/Jackson/Chriss we're further along but I'm not giving up on them, they're only 20, but it sounds like you have so I won't bother trying to change your mind.

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The Pacers were just clowning on the Suns tonight.
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The only consolation is that our second team was a lot better than theirs and they were forced to bring their starters back.
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bajanguy008 wrote:so what are the chances Daniels gets invited to the 3pt Shootout. do bench players still get invited , I'm not remembering any since Craig Hodges lol so somebody help me
Eddie Johnson said something very interesting tonight. He said Daniels is the best shooter in Phoenix Suns history! Wow.
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Just a few tweaks...
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Superbone wrote:
bajanguy008 wrote:so what are the chances Daniels gets invited to the 3pt Shootout. do bench players still get invited , I'm not remembering any since Craig Hodges lol so somebody help me
Eddie Johnson said something very interesting tonight. He said Daniels is the best shooter in Phoenix Suns history! Wow.
Well, by the numbers...

http://bkref.com/tiny/r1BiU

Doesn't exactly scream "BEST IN FRANCHISE HISTORY!" in my reading, but...

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